10-04-2002 08:36									#1
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This game is freakin addictive. I play one arab Israeli war and I sit there for 15 minutes a turn. I even lost.....the AI whooped my ass. Eygpt ok went across the Suez, and Syria. We got into Israel and up the Sinia, but the Israeli airforce bombed the bridges,and launched a huge tank counter-attack and pushed us back. But it was fun.

Does anybody have The Operation Art of War II (Elite)?

PBEM sounds fun

	10-04-2002 09:31									#2
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Is it a new game? (one that cannot be easily downloadable)

	10-04-2002 11:00									#3
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faded glory: I play TOAW elite as well.

You might be interested in reading through the thread on this forum called "Do You Like wargames?" It has a lot of TOAW discussion as well as a lot of links to free wargames that you can download.

	11-04-2002 04:50									#4
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well here are the screenshots. Lucky last night I took them.Actually was gonna do a AAR on TS web. But I cant


Suez, Starting offensive. About 900 T-55's and 70,000 troops. My first move was to try and knock out the Israeli airforce..... But lost about 600 migs in the first 5 hours. Got bogged down on the opposite side

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	11-04-2002 04:53									#5
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Golan wasnt as tough..I overwhelmed there initial lines

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	11-04-2002 04:56									#6
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Back to Suez. Engies got stuck. Commando's were engaged..... Waiting so I kind float the tanks across. But the Israeli's kept bombing them...but eventually..the SAM coverage provaled. I got 86 Israeli planes in 2 turns. (They stopped after that)

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	11-04-2002 04:57									#7
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But we get through Bar lev in teh south (ignore overlap error)

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	11-04-2002 05:01									#8
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Golan, High water mark.....its all down hil from here. Lost a crucial battle at Al-Quesda or whatever that city is. Lost like 300 T-62's..couldnt recover. Well I captured the city. But the price was too heavy to hold on. And USA was sending a bunch of supplies and Israeli AI was bringing them up...

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Now We break through in the Sinia, I rush 3 Tank Divisions... It turns into a route. Somthing like 700 Israeli's were killed. And we pushed up north to hook the Israeli's and connect to the sea (Hopefully surrounded Israeli Ugdat tank corps)

oh forgot to attach....

	11-04-2002 05:10									#10
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North! God is great, God is good! Death to umm...Zionism!

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	11-04-2002 05:13									#11
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Continue pushing. I can smell victory. 70,000 Israeli's might be incrircled here...If I keep pushing..But AI sets up strong points on city. I try to just ignore...But I must assualt. They are tough. Eat up lots of men. Katuysha's arent helping

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	11-04-2002 05:14									#12
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Pushing up...(notice my undefended flank)

	11-04-2002 05:16									#13
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sigh

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	11-04-2002 05:20									#14
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Well.....I only had a few BMP's and signal men on my flank. It would figure 500 M60's would figure.


Oh its all downhill from here. After a hard fight, Syria is obliterated. 2 Eygptian armies ended up getting surrounded. I tried to save them with a Morrocco tank division and Libya Mech. But no dice.


Anyway. Here is the AAR. This game has an awesome AI.

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	12-04-2002 04:55									#15
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Great pics faded glory. Glad you are enjoying the game.

Yes, that AI can stomp you hard :lol

	12-04-2002 16:51									#16
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I have TOAW ACOW edition and I must say it's a great, no wait awesome game!

Faded Glory, have you tried the Israel/Mideast 1967 scenario? That is my personal favourite and it's also a huge scenario. Very tough to win no matter which side you chose to play. As far as I can tell the scenario has all the historically correct units that were invovled.

	12-04-2002 16:54									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Is it a new game? (one that cannot be easily downloadable)

Eli:

It's not a new game, I found my copy in the bargain section of my local software store. However it is a tough game to find now in the stores. I believe you can still order it online. Try www.talonsoft.com or www.compuexpert.com

It's well worth the effort to find this game if you enjoy wargames. Their are at least 5 middle east scenarios in the game. The War For Independance, The 1956 Sinai Campaign, The 1967 Six Day War, The 1973 Yom Kippur War, and a what if scenario set in 2000.

	13-04-2002 06:05									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Haupt. Dietrich I have TOAW ACOW edition and I must say it's a great, no wait awesome game! Faded Glory, have you tried the Israel/Mideast 1967 scenario? That is my personal favourite and it's also a huge scenario. Very tough to win no matter which side you chose to play. As far as I can tell the scenario has all the historically correct units that were invovled.

I have the 67 scenario! We should get together for a PBEM sometime.....I prefer the 73 Arab Israeli wars. But it works for me. Yes I love the game.

quote: have you tried the Israel/Mideast 1967 scenario?

Israel is too hard. Ever send the T-34's against Centurions? The best shot is in 73' Bar Lev and Golan are weak, and you can take those and fortify. Oh there is also the 56 invasion.


I tried some of the Vietnam and Civil war ones. But I got bored with those quickly. I do enjoy the ME wars tho. Alot. I made my own.....Replaced all T-62's with T-90's and M60's with Merkava III'

	13-04-2002 06:05									#19
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Oh I also loveeeee the music. That keeps me interested

	14-04-2002 02:41									#20
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory I have the 67 scenario! We should get together for a PBEM sometime.....I prefer the 73 Arab Israeli wars. But it works for me. Yes I love the game.

Sounds good Faded Glory. I've never played via PBEM so a few pointers on how it works would be great

The other thing is I've never played against a human before! I could end up being an easy mark. However, that wouldn't discourage me. I like to play period, and the thought of playing against a human sounds great.

	14-04-2002 03:04									#21
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dont worry. I never played a human opponent either. Leave our emil I will send you an email. What scenario, who do you want to be? Etc......

Thanks!

	16-04-2002 20:47									#22
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Turn 1 haupt ! Good luck! I only want to play the underdog here. Im getting good with the arabs,Soviets and vietnamese...




Syrian commando's land behind israeli lines capturing the Zionist settlement at mount Herman. Totally surprising the Israeli army. Tanks moved forward crashing through initial defenses..and pushing forward with light losses We believe we are up against srong Israeli forces in the Golan. Al-Quetrya or whatever, held out despte losing 3/4 of it defending armor force. But high hopes it will fall next turn

Eygptian bridge commando's storm across the Sinia capturing the opposite bank.While 5 infantry and 1 armor Divisions assault Israeli positions on the Bar-Lev. Pushing back most forces, and oblitering two Israeli Brigades.

Air force didnt have as much luck. But still, we can call on our SAM's to keep you away!

Good luck Haupt! The turn is with you. Any problems just email me. Handicapp is off.

	16-04-2002 23:28									#23
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Sounds good Faded Glory!

Can't wait to get home from work to start my turn! Looks like I'll have my hands full.

	17-04-2002 03:55									#24
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Back to you Faded Glory!

The Bar-Lev line seems to be cracking in some areas. Egyptian commandos evaporated.

On the Golan massive Syrian attack has caught the State of Israel by surprise! Many reservists and regular soldiers first heard of the attack while attending synagogue.

No major air combat so far as the IDF tries to asses the situation.

	17-04-2002 17:38									#25
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Can you guys post the occasional screenshot for the benefit of us spectators?

	18-04-2002 05:32									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Haupt. Dietrich Back to you Faded Glory! The Bar-Lev line seems to be cracking in some areas. Egyptian commandos evaporated. On the Golan massive Syrian attack has caught the State of Israel by surprise! Many reservists and regular soldiers first heard of the attack while attending synagogue. No major air combat so far as the IDF tries to asses the situation.

hey bro you need the patch!


DL the patch, replay the turn and send it back.

Patch is at www.Talonsoft.com

Case: Sure

	18-04-2002 05:39									#27
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more specifically go here http://www.talonsoft.com/patches/index.html

pick your version. Oh it says that the patch makes all versions compatible with one another.


So no problems.

	18-04-2002 16:52									#28
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Hi Faded Glory,

I checked out the link you supplied but am a little confused.

Which patch should I try? I have TOAW A Century of War. This version contains all the scenarios for TOAW 1, 2, Kosovo, Elite, plus a few extras like WWI scenarios. I have installed the latest patch for Century of War version 1.04. That patch is about 2.4mb. Anyway I'll try playing your file again and resend it to you tonight.

Which patch did you dl? I'm assuming it was the TOAW II Elite patch? It would make sense that Talonsoft would make all versions of TOAW compatible with each other. Anyone else out there familiar with compatibility issues for the different TOAW's? Leonidas maybe?

If this doesn't work maybe you could resend your turn one again.
Keep your fingers crossed!

	18-04-2002 17:18									#29
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FG : Check your PMs. I didnt receive your reply because my inbox was full.

	23-04-2002 20:13									#30
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Haven't heard anything in a while. I'll assume that there is a compatibility problem that cannot be fixed. Oh well..............


Maybe another time.