26-04-2002 08:47									#31
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a very interesting seesion tonight. i just wanna point out that given that the first 2 turns took over an hour, i don't think i should ever be accused of slow play again

	27-04-2002 18:38									#32
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The other thing about the Zylka episode is how poor his strategy really was.

J23SE had no trouble thwarting the attack and Zylka had no answer. Zylka was depending on total surprise and when his cover was blown he couldn't regroup his strategic thoughts. He just squandered all his resources and quit in disgust at his own failure I'd say.

But we really need Berzerker to post just how he spotted that tri of Zylka's. Was it as Markus suggests where you can sometimes see a unit move in the square two above or two below a city?

	27-04-2002 21:12									#33
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quote: Originally posted by deity The other thing about the Zylka episode is how poor his strategy really was. J23SE had no trouble thwarting the attack and Zylka had no answer. Zylka was depending on total surprise and when his cover was blown he couldn't regroup his strategic thoughts. He just squandered all his resources and quit in disgust at his own failure I'd say. But we really need Berzerker to post just how he spotted that tri of Zylka's. Was it as Markus suggests where you can sometimes see a unit move in the square two above or two below a city?

Give it a rest.

its also possible to see a unit diagonally on some maps. but if the last active unit was a diplomat all units are invisible, even if they are within the city radius.

	28-04-2002 13:49									#34
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sorry guys - i am gonna have to bow out of any further play in this game - I'll try and find a sub for myself.

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	29-04-2002 12:55									#35
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is this friday game deity, i should be avaialble this friday for a session to sub~~

	30-04-2002 00:25									#36
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Thanks Ras. I'd appreciate if you could sub for me. I can give you quick lowdown on what I was planning etc. if you want. Just catch me when I'm online sometime I'll help you out anyway I can.

	30-04-2002 03:50									#37
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Damn austrialians are taking over... First makeo now finbar?

	30-04-2002 06:51									#38
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I don't know how the session went, but I can explain what happened with regards to the Souix/Japanese conflict.

Zylka (Japan) begged for 1 more turn at the end of our last session claiming he had a border dispute to settle (uh oh, did he mean the more distant Russians or the peaceful nearby Souix?). This was after he moved what I believed were 2 triremes near my capital. I only spotted the movement as they passed through a square north of one of my cities. The repeated requests for another turn combined with Zylka's reputation as a warmonger and the arrival of triremes near my capital convinced me my capital was about to be attacked INSPITE OF OUR PEACE TREATY. Did you'll hear that? INSPITE OF OUR PEACE TREATY!

I asked Deity to inform the sub of the impending threat and to tell the sub to rush build a trireme in the city nearest the enemy. Short of that, blocking a landing was the only other defense. I understand accusations of cheating or unethical behavior have been made. I'm not sure why though, it is common courtesy for someone to try and give subs information about the previous owner's situation and I did tell Deity about what I thought Zylka was about to do. And I did ask Deity to tell the sub my thoughts and what might be done to stop or slow the impending invasion which included rush building a trireme in the nearest city.

Thx Deity, I should be here this Thursday night. I've done some work re-scheduling sacrificing another night to make Thursday available. I'm just glad my employer was amenable to the change

Zylka, Deity did nothing wrong. While I don't look forward to you resuming as the Japanese I hope you will see neither Deity or I did anything wrong. I know how angers can flare when the best laid plans of mice and men can...well, you know the proverb .

	30-04-2002 07:05									#39
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Markus -

quote: its also possible to see a unit diagonally on some maps.

Yeah, the ship(s) I saw appeared outside the city's radius - the 1st diagonal just outside the radius I think. Cant really remember, I wasn't paying close attention and just caught a glimpse of a ship passing by. The lag and my lack of attention made it tough to know how many ships were sailing by.

Well, on second thought, I don't even know if they were outside my radius. Zylka knows better than me where exactly he sailed. I know he did try to avoid my city on the peninsula or I would have seen him hugging the coast more.

quote: but if the last active unit was a diplomat all units are invisible, even if they are within the city radius.

What do you mean?

	30-04-2002 16:54									#40
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quote: Originally posted by markusf Damn austrialians are taking over... First makeo now finbar?

finbar?

You mean Raz?

Both may be insulted you know...

	30-04-2002 17:01									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker ...edit... Thx Deity, I should be here this Thursday night. I've done some work re-scheduling sacrificing another night to make Thursday available. I'm just glad my employer was amenable to the change Zylka, Deity did nothing wrong. While I don't look forward to you resuming as the Japanese I hope you will see neither Deity or I did anything wrong. I know how angers can flare when the best laid plans of mice and men can...well, you know the proverb .

Great that you can be here this week. I'm desperately keen to keep this show on the road.

Raz is lined up as Romans but I'm really disappointed if DD doesn't continue. But Raz will certainly add classic and experienced diplo playing.. LOL Watch out everyone!

Either way we have a full line-up with J23SE as Japs.

We play 8pm USA EDT (or 8:30pm if DD plays).

Raz, That's 10am Friday in Aussie EST.

	30-04-2002 19:22									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker What do you mean?

If you land a crusader in someones city limits and then put a diplomat on the same square, both units are invisible to the other person.

	03-05-2002 04:08									#43
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quote: Originally posted by markusf If you land a crusader in someones city limits and then put a diplomat on the same square, both units are invisible to the other person.

so many bugs to exploit !!!

	03-05-2002 10:27									#44
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Because Microprose only have learned to do artworks and game design but not programming and especislly not real time and network programming...

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	11-05-2002 14:55									#45
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Just quickly for the record, here's the pg.

Markus forging ahead on the meaningless pg

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	11-05-2002 15:09									#46
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It might be interesting to post the number of techs we each have in this no tech trade or steal game.

My Cart DEITIANS have 25 techs.

And I've not yet built the ONE Wonder I'm allowed.

Here are the Wonders that the other civs have built...

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	16-05-2002 05:11									#47
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I may be a bit late, around 8:30-8:45 EST I think. They are having a demo night at one of the local driving ranges and I do not miss those! A chance to swing some really expensive golf clubs.
I shouldn't be too late though...

	17-05-2002 05:55									#48
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Everyone, we are postponing this week.

Please confirm that next week is OK - 8:30pm Thurs, USA EDT? Or earlier.

	24-05-2002 14:31									#49
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A game that could have died has now hit 1540AD.. Wow.

Thanks to J23SE taking over the Japs and Dang came back to steady his Persian empire after a quick fling as the Romans but unfortunately they are running as AI now so if anyone wants to sub for them or take over let us know.

Markus, with GL, is steaming away in the techs stakes and although I'm first in pop he's on top of the pg. The others are making a good go of it in this interesting ONE Wonder, NO Tech trade game. My DEITIAN Carts finally plumped for Magellans as the most suitable Wonder:

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	24-05-2002 14:35									#50
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Incidentally I've got 32 techs and getting a tech every two turns plus caras. I'd be interested in what the others are getting...

Top 5 in 1540AD:

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	24-05-2002 14:40									#51
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I've asked about this before but it's never been explained that I recall but why is it that the pg shows a civ in front that does not have the most pop?

I thought it might have been more techs but someone said that's not right.

Maybe it's because I have less cities and the pg takes account of the two starting squares of each city but the demogs do not?

I'd love to know. It's someting I should know but I don't!!

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	13-06-2002 00:06									#52
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	21-06-2002 23:29									#53
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Ahh, Capo makes a brief though pointless appearance.

	21-06-2002 23:44									#54
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most of the loses occured in the last 10 turns.

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	28-06-2002 05:07									#55
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I will be 10-30 minutes late... So basically our normal start time.