17-04-2002 17:46									#61
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...........Or because Ming's just really really sneaky

	17-04-2002 18:04									#62
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Naw, I know I can trust ming when it comes to that. He's like me, if you have to cheat, what's the point of playing?

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	17-04-2002 18:41									#63
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quote: Originally posted by rah He's like me, if you have to cheat, what's the point of playing?

What's really sad are the people that cheat, and then claim they are NUMBER ONE

	17-04-2002 19:07									#64
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Yes I knew a few of those, what's even more sad is that no-one believed me or cared

	17-04-2002 19:28									#65
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Well DrFell, you raise an interesting point. I always work on the assumption that my opponents aren't cheating, Unless I personally catch them and with a high confidence level. Sometimes you can't be 100% sure. I have caught a few and there are a few I suspect. But I doubt I would go through the effort of accusing them. I just stop playing with them regularly. It is possible that I could be mistaken. I'm old enough to admit that. And as you pointed out, some people don't care. It's not worth the effort. I'm sure I still play every now and then with a few that do, but the only reason I play is for fun, so I don't want to go through the aggravation of a cheating accusation. Even though, I must admit, that the outcome provides some entertaining reading here.

RAH
If you never play in leagues or ladders, the incentive to cheat is greatly reduced. If you have nothing to prove when you play, the incentive to cheat is greatly reduced.

	17-04-2002 19:32									#66
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quote: Originally posted by rah If you never play in leagues or ladders, the incentive to cheat is greatly reduced. If you have nothing to prove when you play, the incentive to cheat is greatly reduced.

The sad part is, they still cheat anyway...

	17-04-2002 19:58									#67
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The most cheaters I have played in fungames on the zone.

As for leagues, most important reason to play there is that games actually get finished.
And its a good way to see how your skill at the game developes over time.

For me, improving and playing competitive is a big part of the fun in civ anyways

	17-04-2002 20:23									#68
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quote: Originally posted by rah I don't want to go through the aggravation of a cheating accusation. Even though, I must admit, that the outcome provides some entertaining reading here.

That's just it. Those threads are great fun but my impression is that everyone else is laughing at (not laughing with) the protagonists. Even if I someone I played cheated there is no way I would post it here. Nothing to gain whatsoever.

	18-04-2002 00:10									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I agree with Ming. In fact I think the real reason Markus and Eyes don't like barbs is they play an expansion strat which relies on as little interference from barbs as possible Now that I know I don't have to defend my cities in this game I can do the same Its sooooo easy, I feel like I'm playing King or something.

I can play with barbs and have played a lot of games with them.
I will never ever play with them on a island that is 4 or 5 squares big. no matter how much defence you have the barbs will knock you out of the game. With game settings like that the host will win each and every time. (either a great start or free tech)

	20-04-2002 02:00									#70
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Yes, yes, you win its your immense skill in which we are all supposed to be in awe, you lose and its the game settings