15-04-2002 16:17									#1
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finnaly time and a connection to this site...sorry for the delay.

crap...now I have a connection just no acces to the diskstation .

ok here it comes out the top of my head:

-As predicted our wise men discovered Monotheisme after the second turn,o the production of Sodaq was changed from Great Wall(wich was by the time already build by someone else) to Michelangelo's Chapel.This was also the time when I send forth my emmisaries to seek out the other civilizations and try to make some deals with them.But for some bizar reason they just seem to hate our guts,they demand techs but when we suggest exchanging they say they are to advanced for us(and they are the ones asking for the wheel )
Also they suddenly decided not to want to exchange maps either... .
To keep it short foreign pollicy is a mess(and it isn't even our foult,or is beeing smart a tread???).btw Babylonians still only want to wage war with us...(that's as far their statements get when we meet.

Romans and Indians are still fighting nicely amongst one another and the Romans found a way to use ZOC to their advantage to move troops along Citadel.You might see this as a bad thing but then I forgot to tell you they use those units to fight/slaughter/die vs the Indian ones."Divide et Impera" or in this case just let them fight so they forget me and leave our cities alone while growing stronger.

Egyptians just started building an other Wonder ,it is called:Adam Smith's

Our wonder :Mikes as the ppl now call it will be finished in 2 turns(the last 2 caravans are ready to enter the city and finish the construction)

Oh and most Glorious news from our explorers they discovered 2 advanced tribes that decided to join us.(maybe there should be a discusion about possible relocation of the second one:Brandenburg.)

Shade
(PS I'll try to get those screenshots in at home)

	15-04-2002 16:30									#2
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Sounds good so far shade. I look forward to the details.

Come back everyone. Government holiday is over.

it's been a long two days.

	15-04-2002 16:42									#3
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I think we should try to fight to weaken the Egypt not to destroy but to get the balance of power back to be as it should be, us at the top!


Edit: Sorry for being so stupid Mr. President Shade!

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	15-04-2002 16:55									#4
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Where are all the embassies the people asked for Mr President ?

Perhaps if you built the embassies the people asked for we might know that the egyptians and the babylonians only have 4 or 5 cities and pose no real threat but it would seem you wish to keep us in the dark and have our people fear a huge 25 city civ as our opponent on this world.

What say the president who ignored the will of the people ?

	15-04-2002 18:12									#5
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Relocate Brandenburg! TWO whales gone to waste while the workers are left with a fish! I say build a settler and scoot over one tile.

Once Mike's is built, train Hydey's diplomats for him, the people demand it.

As for Babylon, any freed up bad guys can be used to liberate the poor babylonian people from their oppressors. We have an elephant and a legion somewhere. Send a warrior in to draw fire, then capture a city. Ashur looks like a good target, if not Babylon itself.

As for Rome using its units to sneak past Citadel: If we completely deny them thrufare, they will eventually sneak attack us. Let them pass until it is no longer wise. (Read: until a vet elephant can kill 6 of their units in one turn)

	15-04-2002 20:06									#6
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I agree about Brandenburg, and have that on my list of things to recommend to the President. The same goes for Dortmund (moving that will change the city square from Plains to Grass, and gain a Whale and Furs, AND gain us a pass-through spot for ships).

	16-04-2002 01:58									#7
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before I'll add some new info I'll start flamming those who seem to have problems whith my reign(btw this is no democracy )

quote: I think we should try to get an alliances to fight to weaken the Egpty not to destroy but to get the balance of power back to be as it should be, us at the top!

I think that this message didn't get through to everybody:
ALL AI HATE OUR GUTS,THEY BARELY WANT TO SPEAK TO US LET ALONE TRADE ANYTHING=>AND YOU ASK FOR ALLIANCES???

quote: Where are all the embassies the people asked for Mr President ?

Like the previous three dozen times: MIKES WAS OUR PRIMARY GOAL WE ONLY HAVE 2 DIPLO's AND I NOW STARTED BUILDING MORE OF THEM FOR EMBASSIES BE PATIENT.
btw babylonians no tread,Egyptians are to my opinion our equal in science...they also own most of the Wonders.

quote: Relocate Brandenburg! TWO whales gone to waste while the workers are left with a fish! I say build a settler and scoot over one tile.

had the same Idea,but I leave the decision to the ppl.
(and before someone starts nagging I should not have build the city there=> Advanced tribe)

quote: As for Rome using its units to sneak past Citadel: If we completely deny them thrufare, they will eventually sneak attack us. Let them pass until it is no longer wise. (Read: until a vet elephant can kill 6 of their units in one turn)

We think as one

quote: The same goes for Dortmund (moving that will change the city square from Plains to Grass, and gain a Whale and Furs, AND gain us a pass-through spot for ships).

again one for the ppl to decide...although I would suggest a second look at the situation.

so far the presidential rant...I thank you for the attention

Shade

	16-04-2002 02:01									#8
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here there is a beter view of the entire world maybe our foreign advisor might want to take a look at it.(and also start counting squares for the routes the diplo's and triremes will folow.)

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	16-04-2002 02:04									#9
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the biggest part of our empire

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	16-04-2002 02:06									#10
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here you can see our sittuation op the Roman continent.(as you can see the one city out our contained airea is still very small...and will stay that way)

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	16-04-2002 02:10									#11
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This is what we know now from the babylonians...=> we still need quite some exploring...

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	16-04-2002 02:11									#12
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here they are both of them

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	16-04-2002 02:14									#13
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this is what our foreign reputation looks like...our reputation is perfection itself...only the AI doesn't want to see that(and we even haven't attacked anyone...we didn't break any treaties and we want to exchange knowledge ...but "Quid pro quo" is something the AI doesn't know...
--> to keep it simple I want to trade anything,but they don't want to.

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	16-04-2002 02:16									#14
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voila here it is...

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	16-04-2002 02:17									#15
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for those who are interested.
(btw hydey look above 4 diplo's are under construction)

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	16-04-2002 02:19									#16
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our ppl are happy,very happy indeed...look what they did to my throne room I love the ppl

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	16-04-2002 02:41									#17
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Mr. President --

I think His Majesty has been doing an excellent job! Worry not that the disgruntled masses play Monday morning quarterback, for they know not the pressure that you carry upon your shoulders. The fate of all the ppl may well rest on any key decision you are called upon to make, and we all know that no government can poll the ppl on every decision in the heat of battle. This is a Democracy, not a PBEM!!

You were elected as a show of faith, but in this society, the voice of the ppl will always be thus -- spamming the forums with ill-informed questions and opinions. Rest assured that those with the clearest minds , the strongest wills, and the most power will win the elections.

You, President Shade, are the man elected. The ppl have spoken!

I urge you to develop a certain thickness of skin. Those with muddy thinking and loud voices will always talk, and the forums exist to let their voices be heard.

A leader of your greatness should heed the call of office -- take counsel from your High Council and go forth into the world confident that they represent the true will of the ppl.

As your loyal servant, I promise you this --
History will tell truly the grand tale of your Presidency.

All Hail The Great Shade!

*(Historian calls a hurried meeting with the wise men, begs them to invent a chill pill before the Prez pops a gasket.)*

	16-04-2002 03:19									#18
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Hm, I think the balance is good. The President is doing his job properly (good work on all those new screenshots), but the People are also speaking their will and that is proper, too.

	16-04-2002 03:22									#19
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quote: Originally posted by shade ,Egyptians are to my opinion our equal in science...they also own most of the Wonders.

If you had built the embassies the people asked for we would know exactly what techs they do or don't have.

They do have 2 of the 6 wonders built so far and in 2 turns we will have 2 of the 7.

	16-04-2002 03:33									#20
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thx for the support

quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit Mr. President -- I urge you to develop a certain thickness of skin. Those with muddy thinking and loud voices will always talk, and the forums exist to let their voices be heard.

problem was that I had to tell it over and over and over and over ...but it seems like my foreign minister is a little deaf(look at the last post )

prez on Chill pils

Shade

	16-04-2002 03:37									#21
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quote: Originally posted by shade .but it seems like my foreign minister is a little deaf

It seems like the president does not want any of our people to hear or see anything about foreign civs or he would have built embassies as the people asked.

President Shade speaks with forked tongue, no wonder none of the other civs that he hides from us will speak to him.

	16-04-2002 03:40									#22
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There is always an AI that focusses on Wonders. That we are so close to it is quite good. And we are invested in building more than the Egyptians can build.

The difference is that we are also building 4 Diplomats, 2 Warriors, 5 Caravans. We need some adjustments to that, but we are on a winning path if we can also manage some additional Libraries and Marketplaces. It is a question of organizing our resources as effectively as possible.

I expect to see our cities produce some Diplomats, some Caravans, and some infrastructure over the next turns. There should be something for everyone to work with.

	16-04-2002 04:16									#23
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OK Hydey! We get the point. No need to labour it.


How much can happen in 7 turns of the early AD game anyway?

	16-04-2002 04:44									#24
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I have been unable to get online for the last few days. I agree with the idea for moving the two new cities, Dortmund and Brandenburg. I will soon provide ideas for additional expansion.

Steele

	16-04-2002 18:16									#25
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt OK Hydey! We get the point. No need to labour it. How much can happen in 7 turns of the early AD game anyway?

At least I have a point, unlike you who just slags off at others

Now run along and tend to your sheep.

	16-04-2002 18:21									#26
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I think that we should be aggresive!

	16-04-2002 19:11									#27
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Nice chair.

As your Supreme Military Commander , I think the Egyptians can continue to build wonders for us. Once our chapel is built, and the masses are happy, many bad guys will be freed up for bullying neighbors. We will only need to get the boats ready to transport piles of them to Egypt. Once we have an impressive force near the wonder spot of our liking, we can let egyptian blood flow. If one other civ builds several wonders we want, we need only go to war with one civ to capture them.

	17-04-2002 04:21									#28
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move the advanced tribes to a better place


five diplomats!!
we are wasting to many resources,

i took a look at the game and everything else is perfect, i´ll try to post another imho with some general commentsa little later

	17-04-2002 04:36									#29
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Since our neighbors are so hostile, I feel there's no need to waste time on embassies. The President is doing his job well. If we hang tough the foreign devils will learn their lesson sooner or later.

By the way, how are we going to tell the difference between someone addressing me and someone addressing the actual President?

	17-04-2002 04:41									#30
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Maybe we should all just call you "MP."