19-04-2002 15:56									#1
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Are the Iroquois your favorite nation? Do you think like me, that religious+expansionist along with a kickbutt UU is a great mix at a large or huge pangea map? Are you also tired of all those New Mauch Chunks and try then to give your cities terrain related fantasy names like "Green Hills" or "Buffalo Meadows"? Excellent, here's some stuff for you. A list of 226 Iroquois and Iroquois-related cities, out of the depths of cyberspace . They were collected, put together and mangled with a random number generator, but putting Salamanca and the matching cities from the original at first place:

Salamanca
Cattaraugus
Tonawanda
Caughnawaga
Chondote
Gandasetaigon
Ganogeh
Gayagaanhe
Gewauga
Kawauka
Kente
Kiohero
Owego
Neodakheat
Oiogouen
Skannayutenate
Onnontare
Gahayanduk
Ataskalolen
Onoalagona
Ostonwackin
Janundat
Ganadoga
Matchasaung
Kanatiochitiage
Oquaga
Saratoga
Kittaning
Gistaquat
Buckaloon
Gaandowanang
Sawcunk
Ganagweh
Onoghsadago
Oatka
Canadasaga
Tekisedaneyout
Mohanet
Mingo Town
Oneniote
Yoroonwago
Ahaouet
Oneida
Tioniongarunte
Sonojowauga
Sonnontio
Tegasoke
Ohrekionni
Ganagarahhare
Onondarka
Deyodeshot
Chemung
Yorkjough
Coshocton
Tewanondadon
Tioga
Canienga
Gadaho
Kanadaseagea
Opolopong
Gaskosada
Cowawago
Skoiyase
Deyohnegano
Sheshequin
Juniata
Canowdowsa
Canajoharie
Churchtononeda
Gahato
Kaskonchiagon
Tionnontoguen
Gadoquat
Manckatawangum
Cokanuk
Runonvea
Chinklacamoose
Tuskokogie
Onondaghara
Honeoye
Gaonsagaon
Hickorytown
Dyosyowan
Ganeraske
White Mingo Town
Onkwe Iyede
Karhawenradonh
Wyalusing
Loyalhannon
New Chemung
Onnahee
John's Town
Kaygen
Aniskalall
Ousagwentera
Kannassarago
Touenho
Kashong
Codocararen
Kanaghsaws
Totiakton
Tullihas
Caneadea
Swahadowri
Ganneious
Skahasegao
Gwaugweh
Gistwiahna
Glasswanoge
Kanatakowa
Otiahanague
Kanagaro
Sconassi
Shenango
Schaunactada
Yellow Creek
Onekagoncka
Pluggy's Town
Geneseo
Chittenango
Awegen
Sevege
Ossewingo
Gaousge
Nondas
Owaiski
Seneca Town
Coreorgonel
Tetosweken
Kickenapawling
Tewohomomy
Cahunghage
Jonondes
Conaquanosshan
Cowassalon
Chemegaide
Onaweron
Churamuk
Indian Point
Shamokin
Keinthe
Adjouquay
Connewango
Kahesarahera
Logstown
Schoherage
Onontatacet
Karhationni
Sewickley
Mahusquechikoken
Wakerhon
Tkanetota
Newtychanning
Kayehkwarageh
Akotaskaroren
Conoytown
Goshgoshunk
Ganawagus
Goiogouen
Little Beard's Town
Jennesedaga
Conihunta
Deseroken
Connosomothdian
Lawunkhannek
Schohorage
Taiaiagon
Ganedontwan
Otseningo
Ostogeron
Tohoguse's Town
Kanesadageh
Teseroken
Wauteghe
Tonihata
Solocka
Old Chemung
Juraken
Teionontatases
Canastigaone
Catherine's Town
Tgasunto
Onondahgegahgeh
Tueadasso
Ganeasos
Canowaroghere
Kushkuski
Kannawalohalla
Deyonongdadagana
Dayoitgao
Scoutash's Town
Tolungowon
Nowadaga
Youcham
Osquake
Newtown
Karaken
Wyoming
Gannentaha
Kahendohon
Venango
Wakatomica
Hostayuntwa
Schoharie
Onondaga
Cheronderoga
Wasps
Skenandowa
Sittawingo
Nescopeck
Deonundagae
Jedakne
Cussewago
Teatontaloga
Aratumquat
Ganosgagong
Unadilla
Gathtsegwarohare
Otskwirakeron
Anpuaqun
Middle Town
Oskanwaserenhon
Ganos
Joneadih
Condawhaw
Oriska

Praise Manitu! Death to all longknives and palefaces!

Last edited by Sir Ralph on 19-04-2002 at 23:01

	19-04-2002 15:58									#2
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And here's a list of 10 leaders. Credits go to Ribannah, as they are shamelessly stolen :

Tyendinaga
Canaqueese
Canassatego
Akiatonharokwen
Kiontwogky
Dekanawidah
Tiyanoga
Tehawenkarogwen
Sagoyewatha
Skenandoah

	20-04-2002 19:26									#3
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Good work, Sir Ralph!

Some additions.

Even more leaders
Handsome Lake (the Seneca prophet, warrior name unknown)
Garangula
Hasanoanda (Ely parker)
Atasatha (Kryn; "the Great Mohawk")

Towns, not on Firaxis' list either
Onondaga (the capital of the League until burnt down by the French in 1696)
Teyagon (Toronto)
Oswegatchie (Ogdensburgh; Sawehkatsi)
Buffalo Creek
Teiontontaroka (Fort Hunter)
Skohare (Schoharie)
Muncytown

Missing are also some important cities that ARE on Firaxis' list, such as Allegany, Grand River, Oil Springs, and Akwesasne (Saint-Regis, double appearance), the Mohawk capital (but not Mauch Chunk (Delaware) and Centralia (Huron)).

Also check for different spellings/names of the same town.

	20-04-2002 22:39									#4
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Little Beard's Town?

	22-04-2002 17:44									#5
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What about wawa? Or was that Algonquin?

	23-04-2002 16:31									#6
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Thanks for advice, Ribannah. I think everybody can mix in your new cities and leaders at his favorite place.

As to me, I intentionally left cities like Grand River, Niagara Falls and Oil Springs out. They are too territory related, for instance Oil Springs without a source of oil would be ridiculous, so would be Grand River without a river. I know, that probably the other city names are also territory related, but at least I don't understand them .

	23-04-2002 19:31									#7
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Wouldn't it be nice to see the Niagara Falls on the map?

	23-04-2002 22:37									#8
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To be honest, those city names all look like they've been created with a random letter mixer...
I don't speak Iroquis and whenever I play them, I like giving my cities english names, like Creek Town, Lake city, Yellow Mountain, Blue Feather Hill etc... that way I can at least somewhat relate.
If I get a wonder production city surrounded by hills and mountains, I call it Magic Mountain ;-)

	25-04-2002 04:08									#9
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH What about wawa? Or was that Algonquin?

I think it's Chinook, not sure though.

	25-04-2002 04:20									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Herr David To be honest, those city names all look like they've been created with a random letter mixer... I don't speak Iroquis and whenever I play them, I like giving my cities english names, like Creek Town, Lake city, Yellow Mountain, Blue Feather Hill etc... that way I can at least somewhat relate. If I get a wonder production city surrounded by hills and mountains, I call it Magic Mountain ;-)

You could try to read some Iroquois history and have the city names come to life for you.

With the Iroquois you're in luck as some of the cities have English (or French, even one Spanish and Scandinavian) names, too, so for now you could have at least the following real towns:

Toronto, Port Hope, Salamanca, Oil Springs, Saint-Regis, Brantville, Salt Saint-Louis, Lac des Deux Montagnes, Ogdensburgh, Buffalo Creek. Probably quite a few more, I haven't really looked. (Note that there are lots and lots of American towns that have Iroquois or other native names.)

What names do you give the cities of other civs whose language you don't speak?

Skennen!

	28-04-2002 08:41									#11
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Wow! I'm impressed that you can get so many city names for the Iroquois. And being expansionist, they definitely need them.