20-04-2002 22:23									#61
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The Empire Strikes Back wasn't a bad film. In fact, as far as mindless entertainment goes, it was quite good. I'm not a big fan of A New Hope, aka, Star Wars, but it had it's moments, mostly with Vader and also Grand Moff Tarkin. Return of the Jedi had the best light saber duel of all four movies so far, which is about the only reason I like it (well, and the space battle).

I have very little good to say about The Phantom Menance. Any scene with Darth Maul was pretty cool . . . notice a trend here. Lukas cares more for hi evil characters than his main charaters.

	20-04-2002 22:27									#62
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Well, as Lucas said, "Gimme a Dictatorship over democracy Anyday"

	21-04-2002 00:47									#63
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quote: Originally posted by MrBaggins Just because a film gets big box office doesn't make it good either... Home Alone? Titanic? Godfather never made massive boxoffice, but is arguably the best film of all time. LOTR stands to be the only true epic film available; 3 films all part of a whole, based on excellent material. Its the only true trilogy ever made. (trilogy meaning where films are part of a whole and not a sequence of three individual films)

The Godfather was a smash, easily beating the 2nd most popular film of the year by TWICE the amount of rentals. Let me quote from Peter Biskind's Easy Riders, Raging Bulls:

quote: Nationally, The Godfather made what was then an unusually wide break, going to 316 theaters, adding another fifty-odd over the course of the next few weeks. (This)... resulted in a dramatic, not to say revolutionary, transformation of Paramount's cash flow. Money poured in the pipeline, faster and in vastly greater volume than ever before in the history of the movie business, a million dollars a day by mid-April. In mid-September, only 6 months after it had opened, the film became the biggest grosser of all time, surpassing GWTW, which took 33 years and numerous re-releases to set its record. By the time its first run was concluded, The Godfather netted $86.2 million in domestic rentals.

(emphasis mine)

The problem with your definition of trilogy is that for the unitiated LOTR does not play like a trilogy. You do not need to see the 2nd and 3rd movies to bring the first to closure - you could and should, but it isn't necessary for the enjoyment of the first.

Anyway, Star Wars was originally planned as a 9 movie series, though I seriously doubt that Lucas thought that there was a chance in hell of getting them all produced when he first concieved of the series.

"The only true epic film available"? You might be a fan, but please: spare us from the hyperbole.

	21-04-2002 01:51									#64
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quote: Lukas cares more for hi evil characters than his main charaters.

But evil is always cooler .

In the words of Dark Helmet (from Spaceballs), "Evil will always triumph because good is dumb".

	21-04-2002 02:22									#65
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--"Anyway, Star Wars was originally planned as a 9 movie series, though I seriously doubt that Lucas thought that there was a chance in hell of getting them all produced when he first concieved of the series."

Considering that the main problems with A New Hope seem to stem from him trying to pack the entire middle trilogy into a single movie, I'd have to say no From what I've read, the whole second Death Star thing only came up because he never expected to be able to make the rest of the movie and had to shuffle things around when he was.

And as far as Jedi Knight goes, check out these cartoons. I have to say that this is the best of the bunch.

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