19-04-2002 21:44									#1
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I have to say this, I am filled with complete nothingness regarding the impending release of movie 2. Phantom Menace was soooo bad, so filled with pointless fluff (not to mention Jar Jar), it was a waste of all the effort that went into getting tickets. I may see it, if people say it's okay, but I'm not gonna make any effort to see it. I haven't seen any indications that Lucas learned from his last movie.


Heck, it's just a 90 minute advertisement for Star Wars merchandise anyways. They should pay US to see it.

	19-04-2002 21:56									#2
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I don't really care. I'll see it, of course, but it's not like it's bigger-than-world issue for me. Episode 1 collapsed my childish belief to 'Star Wars'='Good'.

LOTR 2, now, that's a different issue.

	19-04-2002 21:59									#3
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LOTR was not as good as excepted. I liked the book, it's innocent part and its slow rythm... The movie didn't get it.

Maybe it was more commercial.

	19-04-2002 22:04									#4
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i'm going to watch it, Phantom Menace was poor, but i am so busy that i can't spare 3 hours?

	19-04-2002 22:07									#5
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Well, at least SW2:AOTC has a lock on the 'Best Animated Feature' next year

The preponderance of movie fans seem to think that LOTR was a fabulous film, approaching 'The Godfather' in its greatness. Check out IFDB.

[Correction: IFDB=IMDb]

and FYI,

The top 5 of the top 250.
1 Godfather, The (1972) 9.0/10 (53119 votes)
2 Shawshank Redemption, The (1994) 8.9/10 (70506 votes)
3 Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The (2001) 8.8/10 (56129 votes)
4 Godfather: Part II, The (1974) 8.8/10 (27924 votes)
5 Schindler's List (1993) 8.7/10 (50698 votes)

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	19-04-2002 22:11									#6
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I dont really care no. PM just proved that star wars aint star wars without friggin Han, Luke, Chewy, and the much hotter than Queen Amidala, Princess Leia. Not to mention Darth Vader was a lot cooler than that spike headed guy who played like a 5 minute part.

All the digitized effects sucked too. I liked his old effects much better. They actually required imagination.

I'll see it when it hits video. I will however hit the theatres if a Jar Jar Binks killing is confirmed

	19-04-2002 22:16									#7
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The Star Wars #1 prequel was a complete child movie.

But it makes you feel like a child, thus the appeal

But really.... NOTHING special....
Then again I never cared about the trilogy either....

	19-04-2002 22:16									#8
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Star Wars??? The only thing I remember from the last Star Wars movie I saw was that I was bored to death...

Which means: "I couldn't care less about Star Wars II"

	19-04-2002 22:18									#9
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I'm looking forward to it. I find them entertaining, but I'm not expecting the next coming of God... I will wait a few weeks after it is released and the mobs have died down, and then go see it with my family. The special effects alone are worth watching it on the big screen. I've spent money on far worse movies.

	19-04-2002 22:18									#10
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Couldn't care less.

	19-04-2002 22:19									#11
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BTW did anyone got to see the extra 3 or so minutes of LOTR II?

	19-04-2002 22:20									#12
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Waiting for the extended DVD release. I wish that they'd released the 4 hour dream-cut on DVD, but... thats another story

	19-04-2002 22:33									#13
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I've watched 4 so far 'course I'm gonna go for the next two (and perhaps the following three).

They've got me hooked. 'Course its not like I'm gonna plan my life around it or anything.

	19-04-2002 22:46									#14
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Star Wars: Episode 1 wasn't great but I didn't really care about the whole story and drama. I only watched it because of the computer effects.
The old (70' and 80') three episodes were much better and more original.

BTW - the Jar Jar creature really isn't funny

	19-04-2002 22:49									#15
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there is a site that says jar jar is the antichrist. I tend to believe it.

	19-04-2002 22:50									#16
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People will actually like the antichrist. So I doubt that accussation holds merrit. Maybe he is a lesser demon though.

	19-04-2002 22:52									#17
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc People will actually like the antichrist. So I doubt that accussation holds merrit. Maybe he is a lesser demon though.

In that site it also says that it leads to "masturbatory practises".

As to how it does that, I wouldn't know.

	19-04-2002 22:59									#18
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I am looking foreward to it, but not to the extant that I was looking foreward to the PM. That killed my enthusiasm for the rest of the trilogy.

	19-04-2002 23:02									#19
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I care.

	19-04-2002 23:35									#20
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Nope, don't give a damn. Episode I sucked, and I have no reason to believe II won't as well. Too bad, considering how great the original trilogy was. Lucas, it seems, is now doing children's movies.

LOTR is in an entirely different ballpark - I'll be psyched when the Two Towers comes out.

-Arrian

p.s. Jar-Jar is a fun vacuum.

	19-04-2002 23:40									#21
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As I understand it, Jar Jar is in this new one for all of about 90 seconds.

	19-04-2002 23:44									#22
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90 seconds too long.

But it wasn't just Jar-Jar... it was pretty much the whole movie. Whatever, if I hear from a bunch of people that it's good, I'll go see it. Otherwise, I'm not coughin' up $8.

-Arrian

	19-04-2002 23:45									#23
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As I understand it, Jar Jar is in this new one for all of about 90 seconds.


Hope you are right!

	19-04-2002 23:56									#24
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Well, there's only so much death and painful dismemberment you can cram in mere 90 seconds...

	20-04-2002 00:14									#25
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I'm looking forward to two things;

More background to help me figure out the convoluted plot from Phantom.

And Haydn Christopher as the older Anakin. Adding much more depth than that lame kid, he may be saving grace of the movie

Dave

	20-04-2002 00:25									#26
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Speaking of Star Wars, has anyone played Jedi Knight II? It looks interesting but I have never played a FPS game before. Would you recomend the game to a newbie?

	20-04-2002 00:35									#27
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The secret of the first Star Wars was that they could take the merchandizing, and wrap it around something a little more substantial to make you pay attention.

For example, the first of the first Star Wars is almost a shot-by-shot copy of the old movie 'the Searchers', except in space (compare Luke discovering the bodies at the ranch to the EXACT same original in the Searchers).

The problem with Episode One was that it wasn't very well written. Why? I think Georgie ran out of concepts to copy and other scripts to plagiarize. +, the whole notion of having interesting characters who require 'characterization' was just thrown out.

The characters sucked!!
1. Anakin: Being cutesy lasts about 5 minutes. Poor ability to show emotions, 'unrealistic' script. How were we supposed to empathize? He was a mass of cliche and shallowness.
2. Qui Gon: This is Obi-Wan Kneobi's master? Well, we really don't get to know too much about him, his scene time is mostly fighting.
3. Queen Amidala: a costume looking for a character.
4. The rest: not even worth mentioning

The Two Towers is my must see movie.
What other mainstream movie is going to include poetry? Frodo, the young bourgeois romantic in a changing world, a world of rigid class lines fighting for freedom, a world of a mythic golden age struggling against the merciless forces of reality, progress, and industry?

	20-04-2002 01:33									#28
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I'll see it .

quote: The Star Wars #1 prequel was a complete child movie.

So were 4, 5, and 6 (remember the Ewoks?) .

It does seem funny, time has made it seem that Star Wars is a cinematic masterpiece, when it is, is brainless entertainment. PM fit into that. Yes, it was a bit more childish than the others, but not horribly so.

I saw a little bit of Episode 2 on Entertainment Tonight (or one of those shows) and it looks pretty cool. The impending turning of Anakin, and the Clone Wars (Sam Jackson with a lightsaber = kick ass! ).

	20-04-2002 01:40									#29
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I've never been a massive Star Wars fan anyway, so I can't say I cared that much about the Phantom Menace either, I can take it or leave it. I am quite interesting in seeing the next Lord Of The Rings one though

	20-04-2002 01:47									#30
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I care. I'm going to see it as soon as it comes out.
Episode1 were not the best moovie ever, but it was ok,
ecxept jarjar of course.
well, to be honest I'm looking forwart to see LOTR2
more than SW2. but aren't we all.....

DD: are you talking ( writing ) about
Jedi Knight 2 Outcast? I saw a preview of it
in telly two days ago, it got IIRC 96%
lots of lightsabre and that other jedi stuff.