19-04-2002 23:30									#1
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http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=46986

VISIT THE APOLYTON/COMMUNITY FORUM DAMN YOU ALL!!

Markos, we need a Civ Gaming forum. Nobody here "goes south" to the Misc section

edit: link

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	20-04-2002 06:48									#2
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Maybe (but who am I?) you should have posted it here on general civ3 forum?

It's too late for me now (4 am) to respond properly to your well reflected thread. However, by posting this I'll get the subject to general actuality again ...

That ain't bad isn't it?

I'll be back .

AJ

	20-04-2002 06:50									#3
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I probably should have, but it is not explicitly about designing a Civ3/4 tech tree, its about a Civ tech tree, for any game, for the Ultimate Civ (when it finally comes along).
Its an exploration into what makes a good tech tree. There may be follow up threads too.

	20-04-2002 08:13									#4
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There were fewer techs with Civ 3 than in Civ 2!!

Civ 3 needs a lot more, such as:

Hullmaking; the Saddle; Stirrups; Squierarchy (to get Men-at Arms); Volunteerism; Advanced Naval Warfare; among others.

See the LWC mod on the forums, by Plutarck.

We also need more Wonders. How come The Internet was not a Wonder??

	20-04-2002 08:44									#5
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I thought that post of your's, Wombat, was pretty cool and interesting, and I think you have some great points


but, I thought that we already had the ultimate Civ-game, CtP2, what with SLIC and all.

	20-04-2002 08:52									#6
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nice thread immortal, interresting idea's! ::


off topic: de eerste die ik hier van antwerpen tegenkom:-) aj corp.the FAIR. Woon je in't centrum?

	20-04-2002 09:09									#7
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quote: Originally posted by alva848 nice thread immortal, interresting idea's! :: off topic: de eerste die ik hier van antwerpen tegenkom:-) aj corp.the FAIR. Woon je in't centrum?

off topic (we appear to live close to one another )

Is me dit verschieten .

Misschien kan je overwegen ook Antwerp(en) toe te voegen om zo de naam en faam van onze 'prachtige' stad mee uit te dragen.

Ik woon dicht bij het Bouwcentrum, jij?

AJ

	20-04-2002 09:14									#8
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eeuh, dus je woont achter mijne hoek, ik woon bij het harmoniepark!!!


ps: sorry to all of you who don't understand a (culture) flipping word of this :-)
and for more or less steeling this tread ::

	20-04-2002 09:22									#9
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Nice hearing from you

Daylight's already glooming (?), I'm as tired as King Albert (trembling) and I've encountered a fellow city dweller who lives right around the corner?

The world is a small place, isn't it?

Off to sleep now. Take care.

AJ

	20-04-2002 11:53									#10
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Ik kan ook Nederlands. (Een beetje). Ik was weg gegaan uit amesfoort toen ik drie was.

Good Tree, anyway. IW.

	20-04-2002 22:31									#11
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quote: ut, I thought that we already had the ultimate Civ-game, CtP2, what with SLIC and all.

True, but many Civ3 fans refuse to recognize this. That's why IW doesn't say that we already renamed modded CtP2 to Civ4

Off-topic: Nederlandstaligen aller landen, verenigd u! Samen zullen we de duivelse Finnen verdrijven en de heerschappij over Apolyton overnemen!

	20-04-2002 23:17									#12
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel but, I thought that we already had the ultimate Civ-game, CtP2, what with SLIC and all.

Every tech tree can be improved.


I'm glad people liked the post. Some more replies would be nice...

	21-04-2002 01:38									#13
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De eerste keer dat ik hier zoveel Nederlandstaligen zie. In 1999 had ik het gevoel alsof ik de enigste was van meer dan 5000 mensen.

	21-04-2002 03:40									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus True, but many Civ3 fans refuse to recognize this. That's why IW doesn't say that we already renamed modded CtP2 to Civ4

And I thought we have discovered that CTP2 is the real Civ4.

Ok back on topic would about a non linear tech tree that is dependent on goods, for example if one of your city harvests dye than you should be able to research explosives if none of your cities owns that good sorry for you, but first you have to know a resource and than you can think about it how you can use it.

-Martin

	21-04-2002 06:02									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Off-topic: Nederlandstaligen aller landen, verenigd u! Samen zullen we de duivelse Finnen verdrijven en de heerschappij over Apolyton overnemen!

lol, we only needed what, one more vote in New Amsterdam, oohh
how the world could have been so different today

	21-04-2002 06:15									#16
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quote: Originally posted by M@ni@c De eerste keer dat ik hier zoveel Nederlandstaligen zie. In 1999 had ik het gevoel alsof ik de enigste was van meer dan 5000 mensen.

Dan kijk je op de verkeerde plaatsen, er zijn hier hordes Nederlandstaligen, altijd al zo geweest ook... iig al zolang als ik deze forums al bezoek (since begin '99 ofzo...)

Alva,
It's never too late to take back what's rightfully ours...

	21-04-2002 06:40									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Dan kijk je op de verkeerde plaatsen, er zijn hier hordes Nederlandstaligen, altijd al zo geweest ook... iig al zolang als ik deze forums al bezoek (since begin '99 ofzo...) Alva, It's never too late to take back what's rightfully ours...

you aswell!!!!

let's take this place, it's just fair isn't it

maar zijn we dan nederlands of vlaams(= lees antwerps)

	21-04-2002 18:03									#18
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ANTWAARPE LEEFT ANTWAARPE LACHT IK VOEL HET RITME VAN DE NACHT ...

EN AL DIE HOLLANDERS ZEN ZAT ZE STON ALTAID ME VEL KABAAL TE PISSEN ON DE KATHENDRAAL, ZE VRAGEN HONDERd KIER DE WEG IK STUUR ZE DUUZEND KIER VERKEERD TOTDA ZE DAN HEBBEN GELEERD DAT ELKE STRAAT BELANGeRIJK IS

...

A (dialect) Antwerp song about the multicultural aspect and tolerance of our city by Filet d'Anvers

Locutus, seems that we've also respawned here:

64.246.32.51/~admin1/forums/showthread.php?postid=885128&t=6535#post885128

AJ

	21-04-2002 23:32									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Dan kijk je op de verkeerde plaatsen, er zijn hier hordes Nederlandstaligen, altijd al zo geweest ook... iig al zolang als ik deze forums al bezoek (since begin '99 ofzo...) Alva, It's never too late to take back what's rightfully ours...

Tja, ik heb mij bijna altijd tot de Civ3, SMAC en GGS forums beperkt. Ik veronderstel dat de echte actie op Off-Topic is.

	22-04-2002 03:27									#20
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Get out, all you Dutch madmen
Post here instead.

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	22-04-2002 03:57									#21
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Hi Ben! Just bumping the thread for you

quote: maar zijn we dan nederlands of vlaams(= lees antwerps)

Ach, iedereen weet toch dat Vlaanderen de 13e provincie van Nederland is

quote: Locutus, seems that we've also respawned here

Today Civ3-General, tomorrow Apolyton, next week the world! (Hey, a guy can dream, can't he? )

quote: Tja, ik heb mij bijna altijd tot de Civ3, SMAC en GGS forums beperkt. Ik veronderstel dat de echte actie op Off-Topic is.

Civ2, Off-Topic, en sinds een paar maanden nu ook Civ3... D'r zullen hier in de laatste paar maanden in Civ3 alleen al zeker 50 Nederlanders gepost hebben, schat ik zo (en dan tel ik de Belgen en emigranten nog niet eens mee).

	22-04-2002 06:16									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Hi Ben! Just bumping the thread for you Ach, iedereen weet toch dat Vlaanderen de 13e provincie van Nederland is ????????????????????????????,??????????????????????,?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? volgens mij moet dit andersom zijn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

waar woonde willem van oranje ook alweer???

	22-04-2002 19:45									#23
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quote: Originally posted by alva848 waar woonde willem van oranje ook alweer???

En wie gaat er ook alweer naar Japan en Zuid-Korea?

(and whose country will be at World Championship 2002?
Belgium/Netherlands?)

AJ

PS: Locutus, wat is dat met die Finnen?
(what's the deal with those Fins you've referred to?)

PPS: Peace to all Dutch speaking persons !
(and for the others as well, I suppose )

	22-04-2002 22:04									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat Get out, all you Dutch madmen

I guess it is to late, Ben.

quote: Originally posted by AJ Corp. The FAIR PPS: Peace to all Dutch speaking persons! (and for the others as well, I suppose )

This would be although a good idea for this thread it went a little bit to off topic.

-Martin

	23-04-2002 00:58									#25
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you guys talk funny

	23-04-2002 04:47									#26
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quote: Originally posted by AJ Corp. The FAIR En wie gaat er ook alweer naar Japan en Zuid-Korea? (and whose country will be at World Championship 2002? Belgium/Netherlands?)

Who ever actually won an internation tournament for national teams?

And who ruled Belgium less than 2 centuries ago?

quote: PS: Locutus, wat is dat met die Finnen? (what's the deal with those Fins you've referred to?)

What! You don't know?! You must be the last Apolytoner who doesn't know then
I'm lazy so I'm not gonna write it out, I'll just repost from Juize at CFC:

quote: There is this guy, Bugs, who is known as Apolyton Smiley Factory for his funny comments - he decides to start a thread where he bashes finnish Apolyton members in humorous method. After LightE (Finnish 'poly poster) sees the thread, which is funny for a while, he decides to put a link of it to MuroBBS, a major Finnish forum with over 20 000 members. Needless to say this Bugs's thread (Called 'Evil, evil, Finland') is crowded with newbie Finns which are registered and think that Bugs is serious with his flaming. Unfortunatly, some idiot in MuroBBS (unknow) decides to start spreading the link via IRC and other forums. 'Evil, Evil Finland -thread had within a week 30 000 views (more than Civ3 - General help thread, which has been sticky in Civ3 -forums since the release of Civ3. Server had crashed twice because of the thread. Thanks to Bugs, Apolyton now has massive hordes of newbie finns spamming on there

	23-04-2002 15:36									#27
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Maar wat wordt dan de UU van Vlaanderen, Jerommeke?

En de nederlandse Gouden eeuw intstond doordat onze vloot iedereen de zee af bombardeerde, en omdat we bergen met goud en specerijen uit onze kolonies haalden (stalen).

	23-04-2002 17:54									#28
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Waarom maken we ons zo druk om de verschillen tussen Nederland en België?? Laten we ons allemaal verenigen in een machtig Europa en weerstand bieden tegen de kwade Amerikanen!!
PS. voor meer Nederlanders moet je naar Off Topic gaan...