20-04-2002 03:51									#1
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Tonight's chat was the worst display of uncivil conduct I have seen in a long time. I won't mention any names but there were several 'people' tonight who showed what idiots they could be. Many of us came to get simple questions answered only to be asaulted by the civ-haters and multi-player whiner crowd. It was disgraceful and sad.


We all should be ashamed.

	20-04-2002 03:57									#2
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Shut up! It's just a chat.

(no offence)

	20-04-2002 03:59									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Hagbart Shut up! It's just a chat.

It's supposed to be useful. Whining about stupid things like mini-maps over and over is not helpful.

	20-04-2002 04:00									#4
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He can voice his opinon just like you can but I agree with him, but FIRAXIS should have at least talked a little.

	20-04-2002 04:00									#5
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lol

	20-04-2002 04:00									#6
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You guys can flame away. I got to go to dinner with the in-laws.

	20-04-2002 04:03									#7
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flame? bah. firaxis' "no comment" stance on the three questions i asked (MP, XP, Minimap) is pure bullplop.

	20-04-2002 04:07									#8
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX flame? bah. firaxis' "no comment" stance on the three questions i asked (MP, XP, Minimap) is pure bullplop.

I thought you had gotten yourself banned.

Glad to see your still around.

	20-04-2002 04:11									#9
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I just want to see the transcript/recording of it all.

Missed it.

	20-04-2002 04:18									#10
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I missed it too. The java chatroom didn't seem to work.

	20-04-2002 04:23									#11
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The Java Chatroom was working - it just took a long time to get into it.

	20-04-2002 04:31									#12
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX flame? bah. firaxis' "no comment" stance on anything of even minor relevance is pure bullplop.

Fixed it up a bit for you. I'm sure this is what you meant.

	20-04-2002 04:35									#13
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quote: Originally posted by ACooper Tonight's chat was the worst display of uncivil conduct I have seen in a long time. I won't mention any names but there were several 'people' tonight who showed what idiots they could be. Many of us came to get simple questions answered only to be asaulted by the civ-haters and multi-player whiner crowd. It was disgraceful and sad. We all should be ashamed.

Firaxis should be ashamed of its beta product.

And most of the "whining" around here seems to come from the fanboys and other Firaxis flacks.

	20-04-2002 04:41									#14
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The chat really was disappointing. Between server issues, the no comments, and the rest of it. There really wan't much information. Mostly it was a "we can't talk about that." session. I like the patch, but the chat was a waste of time.

	20-04-2002 04:58									#15
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quote: Originally posted by PatLasch I like the patch, but the chat was a waste of time.

Much like the conversation on this thread. So how many times have we argued these points before? Too many to count. Lay off it, guys: Let those who like it like it and those who hate it hate it.

PS: Hats off to Coracle for making this thread, originally about the chat, into another complainer vs. complainer thread.

	20-04-2002 05:00									#16
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	20-04-2002 05:03									#17
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The problem is that some whining is constructive, yet the type seen today is derogatory, it makes them take Apolyton less seriously.

	20-04-2002 05:08									#18
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Ahhh........

but who is taking them seriously????

*Sid Meier runs out of room with a bathrobe on and shaving cream on his face to confront the gamers who have broken into his house*

Go away! Go away! We will give you a patch!

*gamers club Sid with his Civ3 manual and take him outside where they burn him as a witch*

	20-04-2002 05:32									#19
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Did anybody capture the chat to a log? If so, please post...

-- twistedx

	20-04-2002 05:42									#20
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Why should we all be ashamed. Not all of us were there. The actions of a few reprobates( you know who you are ) don't reflect on me.

	20-04-2002 05:42									#21
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MarkG will post the log in due course.

	20-04-2002 05:44									#22
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quote: Originally posted by PatLasch The chat really was disappointing. Between server issues, the no comments, and the rest of it. There really wan't much information. Mostly it was a "we can't talk about that." session. I like the patch, but the chat was a waste of time.

Reading this I consider myself lucky that I've preferred some good old fashioned Belgian beers this evening/night ...



AJ

	20-04-2002 05:46									#23
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Here's the log from the first part of it that I was in, if anyone wants to get their hands on it:

Attachment: chattranscript.txt
This has been downloaded 72 time(s).

	20-04-2002 05:47									#24
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Hear Hear, Tuberski

	20-04-2002 05:51									#25
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Tuberski. You're getting better at the post hunt.

AJ. It wasn't all bad. I think Firaxians took a few things away from it. I learned a bit. It wasn't as good as the last one though. The Firaxians were obviously in more of a lock down mode. Something is afoot (my guess) and they seem to be under pain of death to not reveal anything about it.

	20-04-2002 05:53									#26
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NYE: 309 and counting , besides we now have something to talk about.

Just from what I have heard about the chat I would guess you may be correct. Others are predicting doom for anything else to be implemented, but I don't think so.

	20-04-2002 06:30									#27
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quote: Originally posted by ACooper Many of us came to get simple questions answered only to be asaulted by the civ-haters and multi-player whiner crowd. It was disgraceful and sad.

I wasn't there so I can't a test to the uncivil conduct you are refering to but I must say you could stand a little "adjusting" too. What's with calling people who enjoy MP whiners? Face the facts Cooper, these people have every right to have their questions anwsered just like you do. Even if they're concerned about different issues.

	20-04-2002 06:33									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I wasn't there so I can't a test to the uncivil conduct you are refering to but I must say you could stand a little "adjusting" too. What's with calling people who enjoy MP whiners? Face the facts Cooper, these people have every right to have their questions anwsered just like you do. Even if they're concerned about different issues.

This is part of it "UberKruX-Wheres-Multiplayer" that was his login name. And aparently(?) he got booted out for continuously repeating it. That is AFAIK.

	20-04-2002 06:45									#29
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Seems the Firaxians can't please anyone

I'm happy....but my wife says I'm easy.

	20-04-2002 08:02									#30
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quote: I'm happy....but my wife says I'm easy.

It was worth reading through this entire (painful) thread just for that comment!!