13-04-2001 06:43									#1
	Which civilizations can be included without disturbing the excisting ones? Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

There is a lot of talk about how many civilizations there should be in civ3. Now, the problem with having a huge number of civs, is that many of them followes in time, and therefore has the same cities in their realm. I beleive that the civilization games have included almost as many as possible. But there are still some that can be used. Any suggestions?

	13-04-2001 06:50									#2
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By the way: What is Sid Meyer's Alien Crossfire?

	13-04-2001 09:05									#7
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Actually, historians and anthropologists have been debating on whether or not it really holds true that agriculture ALWAYS preceded civilization. There are some cases where civilization appeared to have risen before agriculture (pre-contact Americas).

	13-04-2001 20:19									#8
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I don't think the debate was about agriculture, just what extra civs could be inserted. In the Americas, its kind of obvious that the Incans and Toltecs were significant civilizations, look at their ruins (ignoring debates as to who actually built Manchu Piccu). About civilization rising before agriculture, those primative civs aren't ones I want to see in civ. I want some big building or conquering nations. About Oceania, what kind of great leaders would you have?

A question about minor civs, are they just there as small AI opponents to justify barbarians? Or are you able to negotiate with them as you can with the major civs with the diplomacy system?

	14-04-2001 07:10									#10
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I don't see much trouble in having a couple cities named the same thing, to me its the leader and their playstyle/aggressiveness that make the civ, not what they call their towns. Besides even having a New York built when York was never even a possibility doesn't mean that I don't want my Big Apple.

	14-04-2001 07:19									#11
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The Khmer (Angkor) is a good suggestion, as is the Mali. Also, they could break up Native Americains into different Civs, i.e. Inuit, Dakota, etc. (although finding cities would be a giant pain)