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Are you an idiot? The last 200 years have been awesome for the advancemen of mankind. Unless you would rather liked riding around in wagons and work as a fuedal peasant.


Take a look at what's different in 200 years. Humans have not advanced that much. We can't even find a way to solve world hunger and religious wars. There isn't a cure for the common cold. Cancer still kills, and greed still drives the system. And how much is society going to change in the next century when all the oil runs out?

To answer your question.... no, I'm not an idiot. I'm a realist. You put too much faith in technology.

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the earths population is holding steady right now. Thanks to china of course. I think it will drop off very soon and begin to head down.

Social problems? Always been those. We tackle em as we meet em

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Take a look at what's different in 200 years. Humans have not advanced that much. We can't even find a way to solve world hunger and religious wars. There isn't a cure for the common cold. Cancer still kills, and greed still drives the system. And how much is society going to change in the next century when all the oil runs out?

There is enough oil to last us 300 more years. There finding oil the darndest spots ya know. Untapped...but its oil. And if you think we will be using oil in 100 years I think your wrong

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the earths population is holding steady right now. Thanks to china of course. I think it will drop off very soon and begin to head down.

Social problems? Always been those. We tackle em as we meet em


That's untrue. While I agree with you that we've made signifigant technological advances, the world's population is far from holding steady. Only in the west does it, for the most part, stay steady, and only in a select few European countries is it decreasing.

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the earths population is holding steady right now. Thanks to china of course. I think it will drop off very soon and begin to head down.

Social problems? Always been those. We tackle em as we meet em


Are you sure you're not living in the bizarro world? The population has increased by a billion in the last 10 years. It has doubled in 30. If you call that "holding steady" you need to take a course in statistics.

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There is enough oil to last us 300 more years. There finding oil the darndest spots ya know. Untapped...but its oil. And if you think we will be using oil in 100 years I think your wrong


According to the US Department of Energy, the world's supply of oil is going to be gone in 80 years. Please, do some research before you troll.

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Yes, but the inventor of the implementation would perish in the collision - if they would let the planet be destroyed in 2880, it would postpone the Relativity Federation's, and respectively the Timefleet's, birth by almost 200 years... originally it was born in 3092.

There's a reason for the names Relativity Federation, not to mention Timefleet...


Ahh but your talking about the Scraped Epoch v.1, I'm talking about Revised Epoch Milleniums 2 thru 7 (Copyright Causuality Voyager Corporation)

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Oh, the fascination of parallel timelines. And the fact that Apolyton allows two people from separate ones to post at the simultaniously!
You mean they managed to shake off the Galbadian Schism in your timeline? That's great!

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Wait a minute! If your timeline has shaken it off, then you won't know of it, nor remember it...

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I'm a Freelancer. Anyway its not "Time Line", its "Possibility Volumes" and "Linear Causuality Paths" through it

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I see. I'm not an expert, so I prefer layman's terms. Besides, "Timeline" is a good novel.

But - doesn't surfing the "Possibility Volumes" and all the alternate universes mix your head all diddly daddly?

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Well I just go into the Infinity Trance like they showed me in the Poly-Causuality Piloting Course and effected not at all have I been.

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I'll be long since back at Settler by then at this rate

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I think it will come close to earth but not hit it. All kinds of things can happen out there in space. It's path can get altered by gravity of the outer planets of our solar system, anther object can hit it, all kinds of stuff. Besides if it is a threat to earth we have lots of time to do something about it. You can use a couple of nuclear missiles and set them off at just the right place so that the asteriod would not hit the earth. You might even be able to vaporize it with enough nuclear missiles

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We could use all our nuclear weapons and get rid of them all in one massive bang

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We could use all our nuclear weapons and get rid of them all in one massive bang




Wouldnt the radiation come back to earth? Giving the world a healthy, green glow...

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I kinna liked the article's mentioning of those "corridors" in the asteroid belt and "fling zones" where asteroids may be hurled through the belt at earth. In 800 years, we could have space stations/asteroid belt mining operations in place out there and just blast them as they come through the pipe....or paint 'em, or whatever...

Hmmm...here's a good (capitalistic) hybrid thought.

If painting the asteroid would work, why not sell tickets to a huge "save the planet" paintball war, to be held ON the approaching asteroid!

Create 5-7 teams, fly 'em up on shuttles with LOTS of paint, and turn 'em loose!

The asteroid gets painted, lots of people watch the game on pay per view, I retire...LOL

-=Vel=-

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Of course it won't make a bang as it is in space. Well a flash then

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Or we could sell the asteroid to microsoft ; who puts a giant advertisment for all to see as it flys by.


Oh.....I can imagine. Some joe-shmoo 700 years from now, after it has passed, digging this thread up and laughing at us.

Ming the XXXVII will then ban him.

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You can use a couple of nuclear missiles and set them off at just the right place so that the asteriod would not hit the earth.


Exactly! But to prevent the chance of the nukes exploding when launched, they calculate where exactly the asteroid would hit Earth. They will then use nukes to blow a hole in the Earth large enough for the asteroid to pass by.

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Why worry about the still-remote possibility of an asteroid hitting? There are several volcanoes on earth capable of doing just as much damage, and they aren't going to miss.

75,000 years ago, Mount Toba buried South East Asia under ash and nearly eradicated humanity. There's an even bigger bugger in the US- if it blows it could put all of North America under 6 foot of boiling-hot ash and kick off a 10-year winter. Bye-bye civilisation.

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75,000 years ago, Mount Toba buried South East Asia under ash and nearly eradicated humanity. There's an even bigger bugger in the US- if it blows it could put all of North America under 6 foot of boiling-hot ash and kick off a 10-year winter. Bye-bye civilisation.


Nuclear missiles?

Or are you serouis

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I'm very serious. The caldera in Yellowstone has been known to throw 200 cubic miles of rockk and ash into the atmosphere. It's overdue for an eruption and the ground over it has started bulging upwards.

Forget war. Forget asteroids. That's the reaper's footstep, and there's absolutely nothing we can do about it.

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Forget war. Forget asteroids. That's the reaper's footstep, and there's absolutely nothing we can do about it.


Sure is. There is sufficient warheads in the US stockpile that some can be used to blow a hole deep enough to let out some magna and gas. At least weaken part of the crust so that the explosion will go through a controlled area instead.

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Exactly! But to prevent the chance of the nukes exploding when launched, they calculate where exactly the asteroid would hit Earth. They will then use nukes to blow a hole in the Earth large enough for the asteroid to pass by.



Good idea.
You can sell this to Hollywood as story for Armaggedon 2.

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The Greenies are always banging on about how we should be saving the planet, and don't get me wrong- I think we should look after the environment we live in, but the planet can take care of itself (hell you'd think a big lump of rock with a heart of liquid-iron could take care of itself!) fact is the earth has soaked up events that could have wiped out humankind and all our nukes, oil-platforms and coca-cola cans a hundred million times over- and will still quite happily continue to churn out new species every few geological-seconds (or every few million years to lifeforms like you an me)

Its quite obviously us who need to be saved from the planet! but somehow I don't think the vast cold radiation-rich vacuum of space is gonna do us any favours just becouse we can build a few metal containers. Maybe if we fling a couple of comets at mars we can get an alternative but >shrugs<

Bugs, is the Yellowstone Caldera the one in Oregon? (I'm a little ignorant of North American geography) or is that one an entirely different potential extinction-power volcano?

Anyway, it could be that by 2880 we would have long since been wiped out by ourselves, or bugs, or mega-erruptions, or a Gamma Ray Burst, or a great-big global rescource crash, etc etc etc.

 
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