26-04-2002 05:10									#31
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Dieting is a waste of time. It actually makes you fatter in the long run because it teaches you metabolism to stock fat whenever you are eating to cope with the next diet.

The only way to lose weight is to exercise regularly and eat a healthy diet.

But people should be happy with their body - if they are healthy that's the main thing.

	26-04-2002 05:16									#32
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So, Tia, if I wanted to lose weight, what should I do?
Other than start eating less, since as you said it yourself quoting Fat Bastard, that's the hardest part...

	26-04-2002 05:21									#33
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Eat a healthy diet, cut out fatty foods and cut down on sugar and salt, do some regular light exercise. Is that so hard?

	26-04-2002 05:24									#34
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Hmmm. Dinner tonight was chicken breast, peas, and steamed spinach with chopped garlic. (good starchild good!)
I put butter on my veggies. (bad starchild bad!)

Had a bowl of cereal and an apple for breakfast. (good starchild good!)
Had pizza with creamy dipping sauce for lunch. (bad starchild bad!)

I think I'm maintaining a balance of sin and virtue when it comes to my diet.

	26-04-2002 05:25									#35
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it depends on what environment you live in and how much time you have on your hands... i think that sleeping well figures high in that dieting order too.

	26-04-2002 05:53									#36
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Tia~ I'm in the same boat with you. Not due to having children though...I credit my severe overweightness to "depression". Eating coz I'm too damn fat to do anything else. I'd like to lose 150 pounds myself. My recent move has forced me into a little exercise..it's not a lot, but it is a start. I don't necessarily eat a lot nor a lot of "junk" food. I am just absolutely inactive. Since my move into an apartment complex a month ago, it has forced me to have to take my dog out for walks...as she cannot just simply go out alone here. So, on average I'm walking with the dog about 45 minutes to an hour a day...and will slowly build that up.

I'm wanna wish you good luck, let ya know I support you and if you need a shoulder to vent...feel free to email or pm me!

Good Luck!!

Ishie

	26-04-2002 06:52									#37
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floyd's right..it helps if you have someone to workout with you...
it really makes the time go by faster and you'll find that you enjoy working out.

	26-04-2002 07:08									#38
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One thing about exercise - you don't have to knock yourself out - this is what makes most people give up.

Latest research shows regular gentle exercise like walking or cycling if just as beneficial as short bursts of intense exercise such as gym work or jogging. You just have to do the gentle stuff for a little longer.

Currently I'm a happy little cyclist

	26-04-2002 07:20									#39
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Thats a good idea for you Tia! Cycling! Not on some exercise bike, but out in the fresh Texas air!

	26-04-2002 07:23									#40
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Texas air this time of year is very good for producing allergies and asthma.

	26-04-2002 10:59									#41
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try yoga poses that will stimulate your thyroid (which controls metabolism)

	26-04-2002 12:22									#42
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I have no idea how difficult it can be being overweight.

But I wish you success, Tia.

	26-04-2002 21:37									#43
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AH ~ Diet and exercise together is what works as well as changing your eating habbits for good. And about the fat thing, I am one of those unfortuante or fortunate people, depending how you look at it who carries themselves and the weight quite well. Yes I look like a "healthy woman" but not someone who has these rolls of fat everywhere.

The thyroid issue usually is one that helps most people. Most people with thyroid problems will either gain (hypo thyroid) or loose (hyper thyroid) weight, but since having cancer in mine.....well it's virtually non existant. They had to take out so much of my thyroid gland that it really doesn't do much of anything anymore. They left just enough in to fool my body into thinking it was there so as not to keep me on medication for the rest of my life.

Ok Ishtar you and me, mano e mano! Let's do this and see how healthy we can get!

My bottom line is I just want to get healthy, feel good and get back to a managable weight that I can feel good about accomplishing.

Oh yeah......thanks everyone for the support and kind words. It makes it just a bit easier to have a place to go when you need it.

	26-04-2002 21:48									#44
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One major tip - Water. Drink lots and lots of water. more importantly, don't drink anything else (except possibly milk in the morning for calcium)

Sugary drinks is the nail in the coffin of any diet, and even diet soda isn't as good for you as water.

Water water water

	26-04-2002 21:50									#45
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Are you going to open a thread when the yoyo effect has set in?

	26-04-2002 21:55									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Tiamat I've set a goal that by August the 100 pounds will be gone and I will be back to my old self

This is an EXTREMELY bad idea.

Just what are you planning to do with all the sagging skin that will result from anything remotely resembling this sort of crash weight loss. You will your old self with all the skin of your present self. You MUST lose weight at much lower rate if you are to avoid that. Even two pounds a week can be too fast for your skin. Ask your doctor about this if you must but don't try that rate unless the Doctor can absolutly assure you that you won't wind a 100 pound person in a 200 pound bag.

	26-04-2002 22:26									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion Are you going to open a thread when the yoyo effect has set in?

Actualy no because I'm making my changes in my diet and lifestyle so there won't be any need. And you wonder why BW doesn't like you

Ethelred ~ yes I know all the pit falls of that. I am doing all of this with the supervison of my doctor. Like I said above. I'm not one of these women with rolls of fat everywhere and I also happen to be quite tall for a girl so that helps distribute my weight fairly evenly. I'm making sure I'm going about this the right way and not doing fad diets or shakes. Changing eating habbits and a good exercise program and now thanks to Cali's suggestion getting into some type of sports is my game plan.

The 100 pounds by August is a goal. That doesn't mean it's going to happen and frankly I will be happy with whatever I accomplish by August.

	26-04-2002 22:28									#48
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hey, that was a joke... what's the matter? I'm sure you'd have appreciated it more had it been posted by Floyd.

And some people still deny women can't be objective

	26-04-2002 22:43									#49
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Hey! I can be objective And no David would have gotten popped to.......probably worse But you can see where it would be taken that way given the fact that you do have a history of making comments and usually turning just about every thread you post on into a spam fest, but if I took it wrong then I retract the earlier statement.

	26-04-2002 22:46									#50
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yes, it's always the "history" and "every thread"... go on, lady, there must be more empty phrases to be used...

	27-04-2002 00:12									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Tiamat I'm not one of these women with rolls of fat everywhere and I also happen to be quite tall for a girl so that helps distribute my weight fairly evenly.

Out of curiosity how tall? I have dropped 20 pounds from my maximum but it has been over several years. Never more than a couple pounds a month I suppose.

I did once go through a short period( had to be short or I would be dead) where I was losing a half pound a day. Dropped from around 180 to 164 before I got my weight stabilized. I had a throat infection and I wrecked my eating habits stabilizing my weight. Sure was nice though to be able to eat anything again like I had done in college. Had to learn all over again what I could get away with after my metabolism finally returned to normal.

	27-04-2002 00:33									#52
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as far as sagging skin: can't she use some of that skin firming lotion or anti-aging cream. and if she drinks tons of water, wont that help rejuvenate her skin's health? in a last ditch bid, she could just have them snip it all off. right?

i bet your back will feel better....your bust size will hopefully shrink..i heard larger ones tend to put real stress on the back.

ok. now i see about your thyroid. yours is gone and mine is just a piece of crap (i have borderline hypothyroidism...eventually the drs say i will have it all the way). what about lipitor or maybe even some pills to make up for what your thyroid cannot produce? also, as far as things sagging, when you get to that point, yoga will help firm and tone all those newly thinned parts.

as far as doing a little instead of a lot..i like the idea. i've heard that running and what not is really hard on the knees and that walking is actually better for you.

	28-04-2002 00:59									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Ethelred Out of curiosity how tall? I have dropped 20 pounds from my maximum but it has been over several years. Never more than a couple pounds a month I suppose. I did once go through a short period( had to be short or I would be dead) where I was losing a half pound a day. Dropped from around 180 to 164 before I got my weight stabilized. I had a throat infection and I wrecked my eating habits stabilizing my weight. Sure was nice though to be able to eat anything again like I had done in college. Had to learn all over again what I could get away with after my metabolism finally returned to normal.

I'm 5'8 which is fairly tall as far as women go as well as being very well proportioned. It helps that I am so tall. Keeping my metabolism stablized after the weight loss is something I plan on keeping up with. One of the most important things to do.

Ususally when I lose weight the boobs are the first things to go. I could stand to lose a few inches there and still have pleanty. As far as the anti aging cream....well fortunately for me I was given good genes. I have good hair, great skin and still get carded occasionally when buying alcohol so I don't think I need to be concerned in that department.

	28-04-2002 03:40									#54
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i meant to help with the sagging skin once you start loosing...lol...like that firming stuff.

	28-04-2002 04:00									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Tiamat I'm 5'8 which is fairly tall as far as women go as well as being very well proportioned. It helps that I am so tall.

Well its decent height anyway.


I suppose I have a distorted idea of what constitutes a tall woman. When I was old enough not to need a babysitter but not old enough to babysit my sister my mother hired the daughters of one of her friends. The short one was 6'1". I didn't understand what she meant when she watched beuty contests and said the girls were big. I think she wasn't talking about their heights.

To me a women isn't tall till she is my height. I am 5'11.5"

	28-04-2002 05:30									#56
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Ohh oHHHHH I wanna lose weight too!!! We can do this together..YEEAAAHHHH

	28-04-2002 05:54									#57
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Cool! Ishtar has joined me so we are going to do it together and keep each other motivated, your welcome to join but honey you don't need to loose anymore........you're perfect just the way you are.

	28-04-2002 06:56									#58
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Well, like I said, I've been on the atkins (no sugar, no carbs) diet for the past 2 months or so now. I've lost 30 pounds, so I guess it works. (this is in addition to regularly running around)

Went on this diet when, I realised in March, that I was still substantially overweight even though I was much thinner at this time last year. Must be the 'ole Hickman (Mom's side of the family) metabolism kicking in. Damn.

	28-04-2002 07:30									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Tiamat you're perfect just the way you are.

I second that

	28-04-2002 10:10									#60
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humor always helps: http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/hackdiet.html

here's a criticism of atkins i found: http://www.hcrc.org/faqs/atkins.html

and tia has the right idea with walking:
http://www.hcrc.org/faqs/atkins.html

you must think i'm nuts to have such an interest in all this, as i'm not technically overweight. but, i must say..it comes from a lifelong obssession with me being obssessed about my weight. ask LR or anyone..i'm always trying to loose, i'm always talking about i dislike what i see in the mirror...i see flab where others see a skinny girl. and so yes, i know a bit about dieting whether i need it or not. just something that i can't shake.