26-04-2002 19:08									#1
	Wouldn't it be cool if... Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

...you could trade PART of your map in MP?

I have often wanted to do this. Give player 1 a map of ...say a route to palyer 2, but not revealing your own bases.

Kind of an extension of the territory/world map difference in Civ3.

Yes, I know it's not going to happen. Just daydreaming 'til my turns come.

	26-04-2002 19:36									#2
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not a general problem.
Either you make/edit a (partial) screen copy and attach it to your message, or you tell the coordinates.

	26-04-2002 20:48									#3
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I always thought a cool feature would be the ability to build a bridge between two nearby landmasses. Yes, I know you can raise land to build a "land bridge", but a real bridge would still allow ships to sail under. It would also make a good strategic target. Oh, and one more thing - a bridge is something that can be done in the known universe, as opposed to raising land (where does that land come from, anyway )

	26-04-2002 22:10									#4
	Dikes! Holes! Deirdre? Inflate your Upload Space

Dikes...thats how the land is created in my imagination! Just like the dutch here on earth do it! Except these are synthmetal and/or photon wall dikes!

-OR-

Maybe its material form boreholes, mines and every Hive base that was constructed on Planet!

-OR-

Maybe Deirdre just strokes the land and whispers naughty things to it untill it rises!

	27-04-2002 08:03									#5
	Bridge like Get a bigger avatar today!

quote: Originally posted by Darius I always thought a cool feature would be the ability to build a bridge between two nearby landmasses. Yes, I know you can raise land to build a "land bridge", but a real bridge would still allow ships to sail under. It would also make a good strategic target. Oh, and one more thing - a bridge is something that can be done in the known universe, as opposed to raising land (where does that land come from, anyway )

Different to Civ3 in SMAC(X) you can build something that is similar: if 2 continents meet together not at the plain side but at the edge of the two fields, then you have a way able to use by land units and the crossing by sea units, and such same as a bridge is in fact.

	28-04-2002 03:04									#6
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Yes, I know that if two tiles meet corner to corner it acts like a bridge. But that's pretty rare. I was just saying it would be an interesting feature to be able to build a bridge in the more general case of one or two water squares between two land squares.

Now how about some other ideas?

	30-04-2002 09:16									#7
	Panama Canal Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

...or you could create an isthmus and build a base on it, allowing only you or your pact-mates to pass through it.

	30-04-2002 10:06									#8
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Perhaps you can build bridges.
In the Alpha.txt terraforming section, we have:

code:
#TERRAIN
 . . . . . 
Road,             None,    Road,             Disable,  1,  Build $STR0,     R, R
Mag Tube,         Magnets, Mag Tube,         Disable,  3,  Build $STR0,     R, R
 . . . . .

code:
#TERRAIN
 . . . . . 
Road,             None,    Road,             Indust,   1,  Build $STR0,     R, R
Mag Tube,         Magnets, Mag Tube,         Magnets,  3,  Build $STR0,     R, R
 . . . . .

	01-05-2002 00:36									#9
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Interesting idea, John. I've never tried changing the alpha.txt file before, but I might just try that sometime.

Does anyone experienced in modifying alpha.txt want to try this and let us know?

	01-05-2002 06:11									#10
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Problem is then, that you canbuild not only one field to connect 2 land mass, but over all the sea. Means sea and land no difference then have when building road + tube. Not so nice that idea.

	01-05-2002 14:28									#11
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It's really easy to build a land bridge that remains passable by sea. All you have to do is terraform a corner of land into the other continent. It's simply a matter of raising the right square to make the connection.

	06-05-2002 03:55									#12
	no can do Support Apolyton

You cannot build roads or tubes in the sea, even if you edit alpha.txt to allow it. The program will not allow it at all.
The only item you can change in this respect is sensors: You can edit alpha.txt to build them at sea, but there will be no icon.

	08-05-2002 04:32									#13
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Well considering each Square represents and area that is the size of Texas a bridge seams unrealistic, an underground tunnel like the one under the english Channel would be a good way to go. If it could be edited (witch it unfortunatly cant) then I would say you just give sea formers the ability to put mag tubes (but not regular roads) in water but set the time to equal a bore hole. It would be a great idea for SMAC2 though.

	08-05-2002 04:38									#14
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Humm just had an idea what about Canals? They would alow your navle units to cross land, most cases if you have a narrow spot in the land you place a city bording 2 oceans but if the land is wider that dont work (has anyone tried multiple adjasent citys?) So if your formers could build something that would alow ships to move over land squares, perhaps if ships could travel up rivers? That would be handy and the navel unit would probly recive the in port penalty when its in a river square too.

	08-05-2002 14:11									#15
	Re: Panama Canal Put an end to popups!

quote: Originally posted by John Paul Jones ...or you could create an isthmus and build a base on it, allowing only you or your pact-mates to pass through it.

now this is a great "trick"