29-04-2002 16:00									#1
	INFO: SPECIAL FORUM STYLES (2nd Banner - Popup Trade-off) Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

On August 2001 we started giving you an option regarding the ads that are shown in the forums(note: this is only for the forums). The definition of "trade-off" requires a positive and a negative part: <br><br>
The good thing is that <u>you wont see the second ad</u> that appeares on the top(again, only in the forums). While our server speed is sufficient(or so we hope), our personal experience using the option is that loading times are better. <br><br>
The bad thing is that when you enter the main forum page or forum display page for the first time of your visit(and only in the first time) <u>you will be geting one (single) pop-up ad</u>. We have set it so that <U>you wont get another pop-up for the next 24 hours</u> after the first.<br><br>
<U>How to enable the option</u>: <br>
- Simply go to styles settings in <a href=/forums/member.php?action=editoptions>your options page</a> and select one of the "Special" styles. There is a "Special" equivalent for every existing style.<br><br>
<u>Got a pop-up while you didnt enable any of the special styles?</u> <br>
- There seems to be a small bug with the styles(unrelated with the ads), and sometimes the style setting is reset. To correct this just go <a href=/forums/member.php?action=editoptions>the options page</a> and press the submit button(the right style appears as the selected option already).<br>
- You may also be geting the pop-up if you are logged out. Login so that you can use the style that you have selected<br><br>
<u>Why go into the trouble of changing?</u><br>
- Because you wont be downloading and seeing ads that rarely interest you and because you'll be helping Apolyton<br><br>
<u>Pop-ups in other parts of the site</u><br>
We do have pop-up ads on the intermediate pages that appear in most times that you download a file or follow a link outside Apolyton. The <u>1 popup/24 hours/visitor</u> rule applies here as well.

	29-04-2002 16:51									#2
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

I truly hate pop-ups, but this seems a good compromise - I can put up with 1/24hrs - but I use two machines - do I get one pop-up / machine / 24hrs?

SG[1]

	29-04-2002 17:04									#3
	Suffering from ads?

yes, if you use two computers you'll get two banners(cookie for determining if you have goten a pop-up is stored locally in your browser cache)

	29-04-2002 17:10									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Thanks - that was what I guessed - have changed to special anyway ...

SG[1]

	29-04-2002 17:55									#5
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

A question Mark...

How come in some of the forums (like this one) I don't see who made the last post to the thread, and the rating shows differently then in other forums. Yet when I view other forums, it's OK ?

Just wondering

	29-04-2002 18:01									#6
	Support Apolyton

specific examples?

	29-04-2002 18:12									#7
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I currently use the "default" setting.

When view most of the forums... (OTF as example) the last three columns show as Replies, Views, and then rating stars (or blank) under them. The last column shows the time of the last post to the thread, and under that, the poster who made it.

In this forum... the last three columns are Replies (same) but next is Rating... and it shows a 0.00 for each thread, and no place for the stars to go. Also, it doesn't show thread views. In addition, the last column shows the time of the last post, but not who made it.

So as I switch between this forum and the OTF, I see different layouts.

	29-04-2002 18:23									#8
	Increase Your PM Length

Ha Ha... you must have just fixed it... because it now looks the same as the OTF. However, I just checked another forum (Europa Universalis) and I still get the same view that I used to see here)

Just wanted to add that it seems to be the case for all the "other games" forums...

	29-04-2002 18:24									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

yeah, there seems to be a problem if you use the default style

i'm now using the light-special but see all the forums with it.

	29-04-2002 18:28									#10
	Suffering from ads?

see the EU forum now

	29-04-2002 18:31									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Thanks... All the "other games" forums look the same now.

	29-04-2002 18:45									#12
	Got spare money?

Why do you have a style dropdown on mainpage?

	29-04-2002 18:50									#13
	Increase the size of your Attachments

quote: Originally posted by Gramphos Why do you have a style dropdown on mainpage?

so that someone can test the styles easily

	29-04-2002 18:52									#14
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

The counter on that place isn't changing. I changed styl, and the counter didn't change.

	29-04-2002 18:55									#15
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

yes, because the change being done from the drop-down menu is not permanent, it only lasts for the current session

	29-04-2002 19:09									#16
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by MarkG yes, because the change being done from the drop-down menu is not permanent, it only lasts for the current session

Ah, so it uses the add to URL trick. I remember using that made the forum to freak out for me, and I never knew what style I'd have when I returned. It ended with that IO had to go to the cp and update my settings to stop it from changing randomly.

	29-04-2002 21:57									#17
	Tired of ads?

One pop up per day, actual this is not true Marcos. If I am not loged in, I get every time I enter the main forum page of the CTP2 forum for example I get every time a pop up banner, reardless of the fact I closed the previous banner or not. In my opinion it is better to have a lot of advertisement on the page instead of one pop up banner per forum visit. Note that I don't want to log in every time I vistit the forum. And I don't use cookies. Of course I know how can I solve this problem myself, I have already a adbocker on my system installed, so just one more click and pop ups won't bother me anymore. Unfortunatly this program filters all the non annoying non pop up banners on the page. By the way I closed the last pop up before it was finished loaded, so I didn't saw it.

-Martin

	29-04-2002 22:32									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

If you find it annoying switch to the "Default" style instead of the "special one.

Mark, the drop-down menu isn't working in Netscape 4.75 under CtP2-Default.All I get is the text from it written out with a white BG.

	29-04-2002 23:06									#19
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

quote: One pop up per day, actual this is not true Marcos.

it is true. i hope you dont blame it on me that you choose not too use cookies!

	29-04-2002 23:10									#20
	Tired of ads?

snapcase, it works just fine on mozilla. time to upgrade?

	30-04-2002 20:07									#21
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: One pop up per day, actual this is not true Marcos. it is true. i hope you dont blame it on me that you choose not too use cookies!

My opinion is that it should also work without cookies. I can close these pop ups before I see the advertisement. It doesn't make any sense to make me close every pop up instead of having some ads on the page itsself. If these pop ups gets too annoying than I will start webwasher and then I won't be anymore bothered by any advertisement, and I think to make me start web washer is not intended.

-Martin

	30-04-2002 20:29									#22
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Martin,

i did the following succesfully on mozilla 0.99 with cookies turned off and having set my style to the light one(e.g. not a special one)

a) went to the control panel
http://apolyton.net/forums/usercp.php
b) logged in
c) started browsing the forums

in the whole process i did not get a single pop-up

you can also subscribe to your favorite forums(the link is in the forum display page under the new thread image) and have direct links to them from your control panel