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planetfall
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Incoming from CO
Jan 2002
time: 22:19
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Forget 1.17.
1.16 is fair.
Base install, unpatch is not good.
If using mods, use 1.16f. if not using mods, use 1.21. I have heard 1.21 may be problem with mods as all graphics are assigned but have not played with mods myself. Depending on the severity of the mods, the ability to control corruption is a nice add to 1.21.
I have been running 1.21 since it came out and have had no slowness issues.
Diplomacy screen, all but 1.21 will only show 8 players. 1.21 is supposed to show more than 8, but I have never played with that many players.
I would agree the base game and default settings make for a disappointing game, but I can play reasonable games after using the editor. Still would like to see more range for aircraft, you know something between 8 tiles and infinite, but not there yet. I would like to have seen manhattan be a small wonder to emulate the world of present, some have nukes and most do not. Alas, firaxis is unwilling to tackle the recoding required to make that happen.
Don't know about civ2, civ3 is the first civ game I have played.
Of course you can always play alpha centurai.
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Coracle
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quote:
Originally posted by planetfall
Don't know about civ2, civ3 is the first civ game I have played.
Of course you can always play alpha centurai. |
PLAY CIV 2!!! Find out how much FUN you can have.
BTW, I vote for 1.21 - best of a bad lot.
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Coracle
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Civ 2 is a MAJOR CLASSIC in computer war gaming history.
It remains much moe fun than Civ 3, and you can even build scenarios, and you have a cheat mode. You have real diplomats, real spying, a cruiser unit, more techs, and no stupid Culture Flipping, no AI settler land-grabbing or other crap as in Civ 3.
Civ 2 rules. Forever.
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ChaotikVisions
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Oklahoma, USA
Apr 2002
time: 23:19
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Use 1.21f, works great. Civ2 may be a classic, or Civilization even more of a classic, but if I had played Civ3 before playing those, I wouldn't have really liked them. Sure, a few features they had that Civ3 didn't i'd like, but general gameplay wouldn't be the same, Civ3 is better then Civ1 and Civ2. :P And whats with all these people coming on, asking for opinions, then deciding to switch back to Civ2 all in the same post? Don't understand the people who don't play the game because they don't like it but come here to tell us bad it is, like we're missing it by liking it ourselves.(speaking for those who do like it) But bah, anyway..
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danimal
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Play Patch 1.51f..it is due out in three months. It will certainly be the best............not!
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danimal
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quote:
Originally posted by ACooper
Whatever makes you happy (1.21 here), but please don't whine. |
I just don't whine...I usually Chardonnay or at least Cabernet Sauvignon. Geesh!!
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Andrew Cory
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SF bay Area
Jan 2002
time: 21:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Coracle
Civ 2 is a MAJOR CLASSIC in computer war gaming history.
It remains much moe fun than Civ 3, and you can even build scenarios, and you have a cheat mode. You have real diplomats, real spying, a cruiser unit, more techs, and no stupid Culture Flipping, no AI settler land-grabbing or other crap as in Civ 3.
Civ 2 rules. Forever. |
I think I begin to see the source of your issue. You want a war game. Civ3 is a game where one builds a _civilization_. Period. War is a part of that, and so is culture. The great irony is that this whole time I thought you were complaining that cities were flipping _to you_. Now I see that you cannot play the game well enough to prevent cities from leaving your empire...
It would take a really low person to point out that this actualy moddels real life quite well. A civilization that is so bent on conquest that it neglects the culture of its people should not be surpized when the people leave the empire. Only a compleat jerk would point out here that this is exactly what happened to Sparta as a result of Epaminodas marching through their territory, or more recently, the soviet union colapsing and Georgia, Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Lithiwania, Chechnia, etc. That person would also be a jerk to mention that this is just what happened to America: It was producing one hell of a lot of money, and little of it was getting back to England (corruption). Their (american) culture was also being pulled by other cultural factors, and flipped...
But again, I am not jerk enough to point this out...
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:19
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quote:
Originally posted by dunk999
1.21 is good. It does slow it down a bit, but you can deactivate the auto-save and it speeds back up.
Ignore Coracle, he has nothing useful to say. |
Do you mean back to same speed as 1.17 with auto-save off or the same speed as 1.17 with auto-save on? Or is it just slower than 1.17 period?
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01-05-2002 02:35
It was easier to play civ2 when you had that safety net, eh?
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