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aeturneus
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Edmonton, Canada
Apr 2001
time: 22:13
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well, like my old dad always used to say - different strokes for different folks 
Some people like the Firaxis style (few turns, lots of dupes) some the WotW style (lots of turns, big and convoluted universe, lots of easy money) and some like playing modded games, eg. Xentropy's server. Some people like playing all at once.
If running another simultaneous game gets more people interested in tradewars - and it looks like this one has attracted at least two new traders already - then IMHO it's a good thing for the community.
Besides, Xentropy and I are solidly in control of Xentropy's server, and I think Xent wants to go in a different direction altogether with his next game, the "living universe", sans dupes. Therefore, I still see a niche for WotW, and will continue to provide the server for those that are interested in playing.
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Xentropy
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Doh, talk about a bang with no warning! Wish he'd banged tomorrow when I'm off work 
Owell, now I have to start way behind. Dunno how much time *I*'ll have to play another game, either! LOL
Btw, to clarify what Aeturneus said, I'm definitely planning the living universe, but I still may rebang the main one as well, since, as A said, he and I are pretty much in control right now. With the extra players I'm seeing, hopefully that'll change, since a challenge is good 
Happy trading!
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Xentropy
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Err, wait, the only way I know of to change the alignment rules is to use MBBS mode. Is there another way, or is your game MBBS enabled, Aeturneus?
If it's MBBS, megarob here I come! >drools<
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Xentropy
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I'm not in yet, I just got home from work 5 minutes ago. I work 12 hour shifts Sun-Tues and every other Wednesday, and this was my long week. So with the total surprise rebang, I've missed too much, so I'm not gonna play in this one. I'm sure every sector has a fig by now and with 5000 sectors and worthless probes, I can't be evil, and I'd rather not be good in yet another game.
You all have fun though :>
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Xentropy
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Oh, out of curiousity, Aeturneus, did you really ZTM your own universe (you call it a ZTM map) or did you do a CIM download when logged in as an observer? I hope the latter since it's much faster and easier and does the same thing, plus will be more accurate.
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aeturneus
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Edmonton, Canada
Apr 2001
time: 22:13
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you haven't missed much, Xent... we aren't all as fig-happy as you  and I just fooled around for most of my turns, checking out the universe. It's really, really convoluted, and should be quite a different game from the relatively straightforward universes we've played so far. There are many, many small bubbles, and quite a few large ones. It would be extremely hard to fig-ure this universe out in a day
As to the ZTM thing, I did actually ZTM it - very thoroughly - but now that you mention it, I'm going to log in as an observer and CIM it, since having a good map available to every trader will level the playing field just a bit, and we have a pretty wide range of skill levels in this particular match from what I've seen so far.
Why don't you play as evil and corp up with some goods?
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Xentropy
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Sounds like the old pre-bang Burbel and Wittlich info...
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Xentropy
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Decided to give the game a shot, and immediately realized shield and fighter prices were WRONG. JANUARY 31ST?!? Change the date on your server, Aeturneus! :P Actually, you can't really, now, it could screw the game over. >sighs< you should've fixed that BEFORE banging...
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Xentropy
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Ah ha, and that's why the V info screen is wrong. The date is January 31st, and the V info is for April 26th. It only updates the V info if it is at least one hour since the last update. So unless you fix the server date and time, V will be wrong until almost three months from now when the server thinks it's April 26th again (sometime in late June-early July :P)
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aeturneus
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Edmonton, Canada
Apr 2001
time: 22:13
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I corrected the date. Unfortunately, this has had a number of effects, probably only a few of which I have discovered so far. First, everyone's turns go up - to 1000 - because the game thinks people haven't been playing for 822 days. Because the game has been 'aged' for so long, discovering unused ports gives you 50 experience instead of 1. All ports seem to have been knocked up to 100%. I'm not entirely sure, but busts have probably been cleared as well. Fig and shield prices will be different than before. Additionally, aliens have gone wild - the alien rank list is wrong, because I forgot to delete the file that holds this info before rebanging, but Aliens will probably be a thousand times to strong, and Ferrengal may be overpowered as well. With these considerations in mind, I'm leaning towards doing a rebang of the universe - we've just barely started, and it makes more sense to invest a couple of months in a game that's working properly than in one that is kinda borked. So, here's when I'm going to do it - I'm posting this in the top of this thread as well - rebang will occur at midnight, Mountain Standard Time. The game will have a different random seed, and a CIM map of the universe will be provided for download immediately.
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Xentropy
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LOL actually there are some tedit commands (B on the main menu and the Age of game in days setting on general one) which will allow the game to not become FUBAR when you change the system date and time, but since the game's been played while hosed, it's kinda hosed forever :> in the future it's a good thing to know though...
Rebang won't be a big deal... no one will lose more than one day of stuff, and now we can call the current game CHAOS until midnight since no one cares if they lose all their stuff... WAR!!!!! ;>
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01-05-2002 14:12
So you have 1 new trader.
I'm assuming you're Chaoslord?
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