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James Adams

Prince

Southampton, England, Uk.
Dec 2001
time: 05:13

01-05-2002 14:51

Proposal thread: Game and forum rules and constitution for real at the end the final

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rules and constitution will be set in stone, but any changes will need to be polled by members and agree by more than 1/2 of the membership!

The final version agreed by over five people here will be put before the members for any poll and over 1/2 of the membership most agree to it!

You have a week to have our discussion until the polls!

Marquis de Sodaq

King

... no, a Marquis.
Jul 2000
time: 23:13

01-05-2002 18:13

Inflate your Upload Space

To start, you ought to dig up that thread containing a rough compilation of rules. It was a bit too heavy on the rules, but might be a framework upon which to start.

civman2000

Emperor

of the Martian Empire
Jun 2001
time: 23:13

01-05-2002 21:05

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I STRONGLY oppose the use of a strict constitution. I fear becoming an over-organized game!

civman2000

Emperor

of the Martian Empire
Jun 2001
time: 23:13

02-05-2002 02:03

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I hereby form the AAAC (Association of Apolytonians Against a Constitution)

shade

King

of bribery.
May 2001
time: 06:13

02-05-2002 02:48

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I agree partially with Civman2000...
The rules should be not to strict but also not bend to extremes.
Best might be to dig up the old rules thread and go over all rules there and compair to how we did the things in the last months.

Shade

CannonFodder

Prince

Alabama, home of the Chronically Ignorant
Jan 2002
time: 23:13

02-05-2002 05:37

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I agree that the rules should not be strict. We should simply glean what information we can from the original rules, reorganize what makes sense, and get rid of the dumb stuff, possibly adding rules that we think might be important. But I don't think that they should matter that much, a general framework is good enough.

MrWhereItsAt

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New Year's Resolution: 2005 is the year of Where It's At - come get some.
Nov 2001
time: 17:13

02-05-2002 06:16

Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Well, we do have a few guidelines on responsibilities for the Advisors, and some common-sense stuff like "Presidents don't screw their people", but with one or two possible additions, we currently have next to no Constitution. It should be against the Constitution to have a Constitution!

civman2000

Emperor

of the Martian Empire
Jun 2001
time: 23:13

02-05-2002 07:05

Remove this text

Civfanatics is an excellent place to look to find mistakes (not just for demo games, also for their civ3-stories board too!). I believe that because everyone understands the way it works and newcomers can pick it up quickly there should be no formal constitution

James Adams

Prince

Southampton, England, Uk.
Dec 2001
time: 05:13

02-05-2002 12:32

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I agree that the rules should not be strict and should be able to be changed!

Last edited by James Adams on 02-05-2002 at 16:56

cavebear

Emperor

of the Pleistocene
Oct 1999
time: 00:13

02-05-2002 17:27

#10

Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

adamsj - I think you should form a Committee of Four to consider what should be in our Constitution. And be sure to include one person who doesn't think there *should* be a Constitution (so that it doesn't get out of hand).

You, of course, should head up this committee.

James Adams

Prince

Southampton, England, Uk.
Dec 2001
time: 05:13

02-05-2002 17:38

#11

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quote:
Originally posted by cavebear
adamsj - I think you should form a Committee of Four to consider what should be in our Constitution. And be sure to include one person who doesn't think there *should* be a Constitution (so that it doesn't get out of hand).

You, of course, should head up this committee.

Who should be in the commitee? I will be head, but who should be the other three? Select by ourself members, it is up to you!

I will pick the three members who are mention the most to be in the committee, you have two days!

MrWhereItsAt

Emperor

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Nov 2001
time: 17:13

02-05-2002 18:04

#12

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I nominate civman2000 as a member of the officially unnamed "Anticonstitutionalists' party".

James Adams

Prince

Southampton, England, Uk.
Dec 2001
time: 05:13

02-05-2002 18:24

#13

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quote:
Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
I nominate civman2000 as a member of the officially unnamed "Anticonstitutionalists' party".

That great That one vote for Civman2000!

Marquis de Sodaq

King

... no, a Marquis.
Jul 2000
time: 23:13

02-05-2002 19:07

#14

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quote:
Originally posted by adamsj
Who should be in the commitee?

The Sodaquistas should have a committee member, as our influence spreads throughout Apolytonia...

James Adams

Prince

Southampton, England, Uk.
Dec 2001
time: 05:13

02-05-2002 19:10

#15

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Which and who is in the Sodaquistas?!

Marquis de Sodaq

King

... no, a Marquis.
Jul 2000
time: 23:13

02-05-2002 19:18

#16

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quote:
Originally posted by adamsj
Which and who is in the Sodaquistas?!

The leader should be obvious

As for the others, it's up to them to step forward.

James Adams

Prince

Southampton, England, Uk.
Dec 2001
time: 05:13

02-05-2002 19:21

#17

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quote:
Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq

The leader should be obvious

As for the others, it's up to them to step forward.

Ok! That one vote for you, but you do need to make voters vote for you. And who is in your political party!

Shadowlord

Warlord

Apr 2002
time: 00:13

02-05-2002 19:51

#18

Got spare money?

I'm volunteering to be in the constitutional committe, as a proponent of a constitution in order to prevent problems and headaches. (Such as, a law like no running for more than 1 office per term, would prevent problems and headaches, without being overly restrictive or confusing.)

civman2000

Emperor

of the Martian Empire
Jun 2001
time: 23:13

02-05-2002 19:59

#19

Increase the size of your Attachments

The AAAC (so far just me and MWIA) wants to have a member in the comittee!

MrWhereItsAt

Emperor

New Year's Resolution: 2005 is the year of Where It's At - come get some.
Nov 2001
time: 17:13

02-05-2002 20:17

#20

Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

I have thrown my Vice-Presidential weight (although in my personal and not necessarily professional hat ) behind you as candidate, civman2000.

* MrWhereItsAt puts on personal hat to support civman2000

Last edited by MrWhereItsAt on 02-05-2002 at 20:27

Shaka Naldur

Emperor

Castellón, Spain
May 2000
time: 06:13

03-05-2002 04:15

#21

Suffering from ads?

why are we having political parties??

James Adams

Prince

Southampton, England, Uk.
Dec 2001
time: 05:13

03-05-2002 15:57

#22

Tired of ads?

So to get more funny, and work done!

cavebear

Emperor

of the Pleistocene
Oct 1999
time: 00:13

03-05-2002 19:21

#23

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quote:
Originally posted by adamsj

Who should be in the commitee? I will be head, but who should be the other three? Select by ourself members, it is up to you!

I will pick the three members who are mention the most to be in the committee, you have two days!

I think it would be good for you to pick 3 other Citizens who are most interested in participating. You could always list the interested candidates and then poll the people about them...

James Adams

Prince

Southampton, England, Uk.
Dec 2001
time: 05:13

03-05-2002 19:26

#24

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quote:
Originally posted by cavebear

I think it would be good for you to pick 3 other Citizens who are most interested in participating. You could always list the interested candidates and then poll the people about them...

Vice President job, I think! (I think that shadowlord if he wants to be in the commitee, will be there automatically!)

MrWhereItsAt

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New Year's Resolution: 2005 is the year of Where It's At - come get some.
Nov 2001
time: 17:13

03-05-2002 19:57

#25

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I can do that. I could get my decisions under way when I have trawled through all the old threads and learned all I can about the past rules for this game (by the end of the weekend).

So... is it now my job?

civman2000

Emperor

of the Martian Empire
Jun 2001
time: 23:13

03-05-2002 20:56

#26

Get a bigger avatar today!

yes you can be the AAAC representative there

PS: check your cp...

cavebear

Emperor

of the Pleistocene
Oct 1999
time: 00:13

04-05-2002 04:45

#27

Full PM-box? Change here!

In that case, I assign the responsibility to the Vice President...

Matticus

Chieftain

of Farmland
Feb 2002
time: 00:13

07-05-2002 07:56

#28

Got spare money?

I don't really like the idea of a constution either. Now that I think about it, a constution would hinder our fun. So count me in on the rolls of the AAAC.
More fun, less rules!!