01-05-2002 22:04									#1
	actual tile size in miles Put an end to popups!

i was looking at the f11 stats the other night and realized that each tile was only 100 square miles. this means a tile is 10x10. With this in mind, that means planes have a max range of 160 (8 tiles there and back), and major cites are only 50 miles apart. Heck 50 miles from downtown chicago and I'd still be in the burbs. i know this is really just a generic number but it affects how I'm trying to mod the game. i wanted to use real life as a basis to determine cultural influence, bombard ranges, and movement factors.

Firaxis, would it be feasible in your next patch to make tiles a more realistic 50x50?

BTW, this was a comment not a flame on the game. I like the game mechanics, its just some of the values seem outta whack to me.

	01-05-2002 22:39									#2
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

The values are irrelevant. The game distances are made as they are for gameplay purposes, and balanced appropriatly.

But, whatever floats your boat.

	01-05-2002 23:49									#3
	Tired of ads?

It is better than Civ II though, is it not.

	01-05-2002 23:49									#4
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alpha wolf

first thing they are pulling number out of thin air

Surface Area of the earth 510,066,000 km^2
http://www.solcomhouse.com/earth.html

or here's another site

http://www.ecoworld.com/Earth/EcoWorld_Earth_Home5.cfm

so see how many 100 square mile spaces you'd need to fill that up

	02-05-2002 00:41									#5
	Tired of ads?

If the map is 100 tiles across, and the Earth has a diameter of 25,000 miles, then each tile would represent 250 miles. Of course, the Earth is not a cylinder, but this gives you an idea.

However, keep in mind that these distances are abstracted. In Civ3, sometimes the squares represent strategic distances, and at other times they represent tactical distances. Artillery shoots two squares in Civ3, but could never shoot 500 miles in the real world. That is the genius of Civ, that sometimes the game acts strategically, sometimes tactically.

Last edited by Zachriel on 02-05-2002 at 00:46

	02-05-2002 00:50									#6
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what originally got my attention was that I had an island that I was assuming equivalent size to Australia and had populated around 80% of it and yet I only had 23000 sq miles. i was trying to calculate how many squares an arliner could fly when I realized that based on 10x10 tiles, i should easily have been able to bomb any city on the island from any other city. i realize that this isnt really a true issue, but just one of quirky things. I was kinda surprised that a tile size wasnt define, then base movement factors, city sizes, etc on that.