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I actually tip quite well, mainly because of the desire to be nice and be well thought of. But to be honest, it is a really stupid way to do it.
If the service charge were included in the bill, then the waiter or waitress would be guaranteed to get a reasonable wage on which they could live. If the service were exceptionally good then they could get a tip on top, but that should be rare - certainly not the norm. This is what is done in France.
The only possible benefit of tipping is that it encourages the waiter to serve better, in order to get a better tip, but quite frankly this doesn't work. In the US you have to tip - it is really not optional if you don't want to have an ugly scene. And any delay is usually the kitchen's fault as much as the waiter's anyway. Finally, the waiter should do their best at their job and be paid for it like everyone else, and be fired if they are crap.
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Oh and to all those "just pay them a better wage" folks, Wait persons make far more money on the tip system than they would on the wage scale, if just because they can avoid paying as much taxes.
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This is just plain stupid. So you think that waiters shouldn't pay tax? Who should pay their tax instead then? You maybe?
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:13
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
What purpose would that serve other than to institute a heavy tax on those living in "rural" areas? |
Thanks for asking politely!
I think we need to move beyond short-sighted notions and look at the big picture:
FACT: Oil is a limited resource. We consume oil at a rate many many many times greater than it is created.
FACT: The current amount of oil needed to keep the USA going is many times beyond our capacity to produce, so we rely on foreign imports. Of the foreign oil sources, a very few, mostly Middle Eastern countries control 90%, giving them excessive political power.
FACT: Using oil pollutes the atmosphere and environment a great deal
FACT: The dependence on oil gives oil companies excessive political clout in the USA.
So, why the tax?
Well, I see oil as a grotesque national addiction, very much like cigarettes. A destructive practice with little redeeming societal values that ultimately hurts more people than it helps. How have we dealt with smoking? We've slapped on large taxes to make the cost of smoking higher. There is a direct corralation between the increasing cost of smoking (combined with increasing social stigma) and the decline of smoking rates in the population at large.
I see a similar solution for our oil problem. There are viable alternatives to oil that are cleaner and cheaper. Oil companies don't like them so use their power to suppress them and eat up patents. One guy made a car that ran on vegetable oil and ran cleanly with more than adequate performance.
So, we slap on those taxes. People will drive less, carpool more to save money. No more hoping in the car to drive to the corner grocery store that takes 10 minutes to walk to. Less cars on the roads mean less government dollars needed for maintenance of wear and tear. Less cars mean less pollution, less-crowded freeways and city streets. Healthier, happier people.
Oh, and then without oil, we can tell the oil companies and, particularly, such regimes as Saudi Arabia and Iraq to go f*ck themselves, because we don't need their stinking oil any longer.
And the best part is, the sooner we begin the inevitable transition to alternative energy sources, the better off we'll be. It will be painful, but we must set aside worries about short-term pain for longterm benefits. There's simply too much at stake to maintain such petty, selfish attitudes.
Oil's clock is winding doooooown...and we're better off for it.
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Timexwatch
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Columbia Heights, Washington D.C.
Jul 1999
time: 00:13
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Krazyhorse:
Here's a breakdown of global producers:
Funny, the majority isn't supplied by OPEC
And to answer Krazyhorse's question, as of 2000, it was Canada
For all those who want to take a look
As for tipping, don't be cheap. If the service is passable and the wait staff relatively congenial, tip 10%. If the waiter is good, tip 15%. If the food is good/brought out fast and the service is excellent, tip 20%. As a student who waits and busses on occasion, I can attest to the fact that I earn more waiting or bussing than with a regular wage job. Why? I'm decent, which guarantees good tips and I always underreport my tips to the tax man. I make sure that I can never get caught by using it as my "play money" 
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:13
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I don't tip. I don't believe in it.
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:13
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I don't see how people can tip more than 10%. You guys must be rich. Or they don't take a lot for food and drinks in your country.
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:13
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Still don't see the difference
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05-05-2002 10:59
) reminds me of the introductory scene of Reservoir Dogs (or ICQ convos with PH for that matter) 
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