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TCO is offline TCO
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Multi-player &quot;pay per play&quot; Full PM-box? Change here!

Anybody think we will get some sort of dedicated server with subscription based MP on it?

I raised this a while ago and nobody listened to me (in the old Civ3 fora). Maybe with all we've seen, it's a little easier to believe this might happen?

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If "we" do, noone will play it.

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Are there any other MP based games with subscription? Perhaps making good money? Just curious. I'm not a gamer. But I figure that companies would try to Hoover out more money from player's pockets by doing this...

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quote:
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I'm not a gamer.




WTF ARE YOU DOING HERE THEN

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If "we" do, noone will play it.


Maybe we is "me"? What about others? looking at it dispassionaately. And regardless, do you think they might try it?

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WTF ARE YOU DOING HERE THEN


guess...

Well...I've OCCed back in the day...

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I they do try to make more money that way, then I believe I dont buy the XP

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Everybody called me crazy when I trolled out that Firaxis wouldn't have MP in Civ3, and that happened...

Wrt MOO3, I said the game looked to have project management issues (several months ago). Now we have the Prject manager fired and a huge shift in game design plan.

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Everybody called me crazy when I trolled out that Firaxis wouldn't have MP in Civ3, and that happened...


Not me...Why should they change the standards of the Civ series, they didn't have MP in Civ(1) or Civ2, so why should they have it in Civ3

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guess...



Oh - postcount

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Anybody think we will get some sort of dedicated server with subscription based MP on it?

I raised this a while ago and nobody listened to me (in the old Civ3 fora). Maybe with all we've seen, it's a little easier to believe this might happen?


i'd see a bnetd-esque project sprung up withing a week.

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Better not be pay-per-play. If it is, I ain't paying or playing. The multi-player had better not be internet-only, LAN games with friends is what i'd be looking for.

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Are there any other MP based games with subscription?


Haven't you heard of Everquest? Insanely popular, insanely addictive and in a few cases deadly. Plus i've heard that the "country" of EQ's per capita income is in the top hundred in the world. Ebay sales of weapons and characters.


quote:
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I'm not a gamer.



duly noted.

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I may not be a gamer...but I can see how pay per play would pay...

I pay 25 a month for AOL and spend 50% of on-line time on poly. Figure how much that would add up to if Poly captured it.

If this thing comes out to be a subscription service, I will run around saying "I told you so".

And will come to an even more cynical view of the MP excision melodrama. (No problem with the Firaxis business decision...only with the lack of honesty in discussion.)

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Haven't you heard of Everquest? Insanely popular, insanely addictive and in a few cases deadly. Plus i've heard that the "country" of EQ's per capita income is in the top hundred in the world. Ebay sales of weapons and characters.



I hadn't heard of it. But suspected that something like this would exist. Just supports me thinking...

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I hadn't heard of it. But suspected that something like this would exist. Just supports me thinking...


Whatever you do, don't get it, or EQ2, not sure when its coming out. My ex-roommate was totally obsessed by it. Every waking minute playing it. Some guy allegedly killed himself because of the game a few weeks ago (his parents are suing, ridiculously enough) A game can be supported like this, it just takes some magic. I doubt Civ3 could work like this, as each game is self contained, no continuity between games.

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I don't think they would actualy pay to play. HOWEVER! I have the feeling they will push you to play on some gaming site no one ever heard of, and that site requires you to dish out a monthly subscription to play games on their site. Possibly, hard write it into the code that the MP runs better on their site then on regular Quake style of "Ping! I found you, let's play". Forcing people to use that site.

Remember, there are not that many people out there who can play games on a LAN. Either they don't have the computers, or their boss has had it with all your Civ2 LAN Parties and pulled the plug on his server.

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There are. At least Artifact does have a lot of loyal paid members. It's also a strategy empire building game. Membership can be purchased, and upgraded.

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Are there any other MP based games with subscription? Perhaps making good money? Just curious. I'm not a gamer. But I figure that companies would try to Hoover out more money from player's pockets by doing this...

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I may not be a gamer...but


Why should we pay ANY attention to what you say if you aren't a gamer?

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I hadn't heard of it. But suspected that something like this would exist. Just supports me thinking...

If you don't know this, then you may also need to know UO, Ashron's call. But all of them are Role play game. Artifact is different. It's closer to civ. Actually somewhere between civ and C&C. I hope the MP@civ3 should be somewhere between C&C and Artifact. WHich means: Firaxian provide a free on-line server. People like it have to buy the game, and play on the server as option. The server also function as a gamer community, and provide a flawless global ranking system by game design, server auto-report, cheat detect and so on. Wow Firaxian should hire me for on-line marketing. LOL

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I agree with AH, what are you doing here, GP.

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as gamers, we should pay attention to non-gamers to get a different viewpoint on the debate, it may help us come up with a logic behind the corporation's movement, and maybe even give us ideas

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I agree with AH, what are you doing here, GP.


He should get on back down to the OT where he belongs

No postcount for you!

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* Grrr or GP?

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GP of course - you play don't you?

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GP of course - you play don't you?


Grrr doesn't play, he just spends all his time posting here! what is that Grrr!, 30 messages in the past 2 hrs?

just teasing, of course

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Less than 2 hours. Of course, MP is what I'm waiting for.

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Less than 2 hours. .


impressive.

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If I buy an expansion to civ III and then they want to charge a subscription for multiplayer; all I can say is I might actually get some sleep.

 
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