05-05-2002 16:39									#1
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So far there's only been a discussion on witch civs, leaders and special units you've THOUGHT would appear in the expension, not which ones you'd WANT. Here's what I'd want:

Arabs or Turks; leader and special unit: don't know
Incas or Mayans; leader and special unit: don't know
Carthagenians; Hannibal; some elephant unit
Spanish; Isabella (need another female leader); conquistador
Mongols; Genghis Kahn or Kublai Kahn (not sure anout the spelling); mounted archer

Also, I hope Firaxis will include a world map with fixed starting locations, and some cool scenarios such as WWII on a world map.

	05-05-2002 17:15									#2
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I'm more for exotic and unusual civs...

Kilwans/The Afro-Shirazi/Swahili
Polynesians
Inuit
The Celts
The Uralians/Finno-Ugric Peoples
The Phoenicians
The Incans
And I suppose The Mongols

	05-05-2002 17:45									#3
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inuit would be brilliant if there was some way for them to be best, or just good, in tundra, a civ specific abitily or a special worker, that could inprove tundra.
it would be good though

	05-05-2002 18:26									#4
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Give me the Jewish!

And also, I'd like Mayans, too.

	05-05-2002 18:32									#5
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quote: Originally posted by tishco inuit would be brilliant if there was some way for them to be best, or just good, in tundra, a civ specific abitily or a special worker, that could inprove tundra. it would be good though

Good idea

Otherwise I think the civs I'd like to see is:

Mongols
Incas
Mayas
Polynesians
Australia

But I have no clue about the leaders (except for Ghenis Kahn (Sp?)) and speciel UU's!

	05-05-2002 19:58									#6
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If I get to pick the 8 civs (still a possibility):

1. Spanish
2. Incas
3. Arabs
4. Koreans
5. Mali
(and three blank slots)

If I hated all of you it would be:
American: Americans Iroquois Aztecs SIOUX CUBANS
Europe: English French Germans Russians SWEDES
Medit: Romans Greeks Egyptians BERBERS
Mideast: Babylonians Persians Zulus ETHIOPIANS ISRAELIS
Asia: Chinese Japanese Indians KAZAKHS AUSTRALIANS

And there would be a mysterious Pong-themed civ.

	05-05-2002 20:23									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Miznia Medit: Romans Greeks Egyptians BERBERS

Who? Who are those...Berbers???

	05-05-2002 21:24									#8
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Well I'd want Scotland, but then again guess why...
Can't believe we didn't make into the original game. Where would Mel Gibson be without William Wallace?

Israel, another African nation and Spain would get my vote too.

	05-05-2002 21:35									#9
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quote: Originally posted by zulu9812 Well I'd want Scotland, but then again guess why... Can't believe we didn't make into the original game. Where would Mel Gibson be without William Wallace?

And Scotland's UU would be the Highlander that can die several times....

	05-05-2002 21:46									#10
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The Berbers are the indigenous population of the Maghreb (northwest Africa).

	05-05-2002 21:58									#11
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Although most people would think they wouldn't belong in civ since they are too small or "young", I'd like to have many present european civs (scotland, spain, italy, ireland and so on) and other civs I know about (australia for example).

The reason is this: I want civs I know something about, and care for in some way. There are a lot of civs suggested here that I don't know anything about of have any reference to, and those civs aren't very fun to play (IMO). And I prefer 'fun' before 'politically and historically correct', I mean, it's just a game, and it's supposed to be fun...

Again, I am not suggesting this is a very good idea for Firaxis to do, I'm just answering to this thread's topic.

	05-05-2002 22:14									#12
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Well said, Cesa.

I'd want:

1. Byzantium
2. Ukraine
3. Celts (I'd rather have them than Spain even, really. Spain is in practically every strategy game. I have no interest in playing them again)
4. Huns/Barbarian Civ. Free Military, but you can't research any technology (can only trade for it). A raider unit would be good too. Less attack than Knight, but can be made in half the time.

Also, as someone said in another thread, Switzerland would be cool too. Instead of a Unique Unit, the could have a Unique Building: Mountain Fortress, the doubles defensive strength. Or, they could have the ability to build cities on mountains. And a new resource: Knifes, that only they can see

	05-05-2002 22:33									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Mikhail And a new resource: Knifes, that only they can see

I can just see the icon infront of me right now

	06-05-2002 00:29									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Mikhail Also, as someone said in another thread, Switzerland would be cool too. Instead of a Unique Unit, the could have a Unique Building: Mountain Fortress, the doubles defensive strength. Or, they could have the ability to build cities on mountains. And a new resource: Knifes, that only they can see

How about a precision archer (3.1.1) for the Swiss? And a free bank in every city...

	06-05-2002 01:33									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Homer So far there's only been a discussion on witch civs, leaders and special units you've THOUGHT would appear in the expension, not which ones you'd WANT. Here's what I'd want:

I don't want a witch civ. I mean, what is this, Harry Potter? Maybe in the second XP.

I would like to see a polynesian civ. or australian, something that could expand out from the south pacific. I would also like to see something from S. America, either Inca or Brazil or Argentina or something like that. And maybe the Kmer or the Vietcong from SE Asia. Mongols, Arabians, Vikings, Scots etc. yes

	06-05-2002 06:51									#16
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I'd like to see the following:

Phonecians
Mongols
Spaniards
Maybe Inca
Realistically non-militarist Chinese.

	06-05-2002 09:13									#17
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The Jewish Solver? Wouldn't that lead to great outrage, and stop people like Dalgetti and Siro playing?

	06-05-2002 09:49									#18
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You can use modification to create a Jewish civilization. (I even made a Zionist faction for Alpha Centauri.) Anybody who stops playing because of something like that is just being stupid. Do any English people not play Civ3 because the English are in it?

	06-05-2002 11:02									#19
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I had assumed the only reason the Jews were wanted is for Jew Bashing. It is then offensive.

	06-05-2002 11:08									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Grrr I had assumed the only reason the Jews were wanted is for Jew Bashing. It is then offensive.

Thats why my mod includes a Kiwi Civ.

	06-05-2002 11:11									#21
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Poor little Birds. Cruelty to animals is bad, you know.

	06-05-2002 11:13									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Grrr Poor little Birds. Cruelty to animals is bad, you know.

But I bet they are quite delicious.

	06-05-2002 11:14									#23
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We don't eat our endangered species. Small flightless birds are not to be eaten.

	06-05-2002 11:20									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Grrr I had assumed the only reason the Jews were wanted is for Jew Bashing.

If that were the case it would definitely be inappropriate. Is that the case?

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quote: Originally posted by Grrr We don't eat our endangered species. Small flightless birds are not to be eaten.

That sucks. We eat ours, i.e. quail. Though they aren't endangered.



Back on topic

A jewish Civ would be cool, with King David or whomever. I wonder what those who have the hitler head would do? Would they have the Germans with Hitler and the Jews in the game? Tht is quite distasteful to me.

	06-05-2002 11:25									#26
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Yeah, that would be useless. There's an inundation of Hitler shows on the History Channel at the moment. Some freaks would undoubtedly use the game to "correct" the outcome of World War II if Hitler were in it.

	06-05-2002 11:27									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. President Yeah, that would be useless. There's an inundation of Hitler shows on the History Channel at the moment. Some freaks would undoubtedly use the game to "correct" the outcome of World War II if Hitler were in it.

Nice. I'm sure there are some wackos that play this game, and would enjoy that.

	06-05-2002 11:34									#28
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No matter which civilizations you include, someone is going to be unhappy major-league. In Mongolia they're probably boycotting the game already because they're not in it.

	06-05-2002 11:35									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. President No matter which civilizations you include, someone is going to be unhappy major-league. In Mongolia they're probably boycotting the game already because they're not in it.

If I was mongolian, you're damn right Iwould be boycotting.

	06-05-2002 11:54									#30
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I thought this thread was about "witch" civilizations.

Anyhow, here is a list of what I would personally like to see:

1. Spanish
2. Vikings
3. Mongols
4. Turks
5. Koreans
6. Portuguese
7. Dutch
8. Khmer

Some other interesting civs for me would be: Arabs, Huns, Celts, Assyrians, Berbers, Indo-Malays, Polynesians, Vietnamese, Tibetans, Malians, Ethiopians, Pygmy, Inca, Navajo, Amazons, and Eskimo.

Oh yeah and Penguins, too!