07-05-2002 07:46									#1
	Is there a population limit? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

My population counter stopped at 320,000,0000. Around year 2009.
Is this a bug, or just a bummer?

	07-05-2002 15:42									#2
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That's the apparent limit. You can have more population; it just doesn't record it.

BTW, there's a patch made by one of our more enterprising Apolytoners removing this limit. If you do a database search, you should be able to find it.

	07-05-2002 15:46									#3
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The patch you want is Julius Brenzaida's 'NoLimits' patch - it cures most of the silly limitations on various statistics and allows Giga maps - seriously good fun. The only downside is that I believe it disables the scenario editor.

I shall try and find the link ...

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	07-05-2002 15:50									#4
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The NoLimits patch is here
Vlad - love the avatar!!!

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	10-05-2002 16:22									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Mr Bunny My population counter stopped at 320,000,0000. Around year 2009. Is this a bug, or just a bummer?

See the posts above.
To test a technical limit at the program
build 255 cities, change rules.txt

@ Cosmic
0 ; # of food each citizen eats per turn
0 ; # of rows in food box (rows * city_size+1 = box)

@Terrain
set foodproduction to 50 or higher on any terrain

wait -> until gamecrash or not

	10-05-2002 17:33									#6
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Note that this no-limits patch is only available for Civ2 MGE and ToT. If you can't multiplay with your Civ2, the no-limits patch will not work!

	12-05-2002 02:32									#7
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Is there a no-limits patch to elimate the city limit in Civ II regluar or Fantastic Worlds---- I would assume no.
But 1. I am itnerested if there is one
and
2. This general forum needs some more traffic

	12-05-2002 03:38									#8
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The city limit can't be eliminated, no matter what Civ2 version.

Look here for an in-depth discussion of this fascinating issue :
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=29881

	13-05-2002 03:28									#9
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That's horrid, now "I have to keep pressing OK to coninue the game

(I have a game with about 270 cities or more )

	13-05-2002 22:47									#10
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Is there any way to remove the city report screens?

I stopped playing on large maps becouse I got quite annoyed at having to hit the enter screen 100+ times each round

	14-05-2002 11:46									#11
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quote: Originally posted by atawa Is there any way to remove the city report screens? I stopped playing on large maps becouse I got quite annoyed at having to hit the enter screen 100+ times each round

Try Ctrl-E or Game|City Report Options and uncheck all the boxes - that should stop the city report screens ... but you will come to regret it ...

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	14-05-2002 16:12									#12
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As for the population limit, I have no idea why it is there.
Gigamaps are only for MGE and ToT, but the limit of population and of gold can be eliminated in all versions of civ2.
It's just that I didn't think it deserved a patch on its own
For the 255 cities, 2048 units and 7 civs, abandon all hope

	15-05-2002 01:42									#13
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I've been trying to do an FW no-limits patch, but I can't seem to find the population limit. There are hundreds of occurrences of 32000!

By the way, the no-limits patch doesn't eliminate the 30,000 gold limit of the treasury option in the cheat menu.
It can be raised easily to 99,999... But there's a limit of 5 characters in the box, and I don't know where to look to lift that limit.

	16-05-2002 14:18									#14
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Mercator, at least in MGE and ToT, the population limit is one of the 1st time (2nd if I recall) when the 32000 number appears. You should try a few shots in the dark, and hopefully it should work.

If you do a patch for FW, don't forget to put the new barbarians and difficulty levels as they work for FW but not MGE
For the gold limit in cheat, no idea how to improve on 99999
Good luck

	16-05-2002 16:46									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida Mercator, at least in MGE and ToT, the population limit is one of the 1st time (2nd if I recall) when the 32000 number appears. You should try a few shots in the dark, and hopefully it should work.

I don't know about MGE, but the ToT exe looks way different from the FW one. There only are a handful of long integer occurrences of 32000 in ToT (which are the ones related to the population), while there are no 32000 long integer occurrences in FW, and a truckload of short integer occurrences.

quote: If you do a patch for FW, don't forget to put the new barbarians and difficulty levels as they work for FW but not MGE

OK

quote: For the gold limit in cheat, no idea how to improve on 99999

I'd probably have to learn assembly language or something to get that right, or at least find some sort of reverse engineering program. But I'm not that desperate and have plenty of more important (real-life) things to deal with...

quote: Good luck

Thanks... I'm not exactly working very hard on it though, just the few moments I don't have anything else to do.

	16-05-2002 22:33									#16
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If this observation is of any value at all -- FW is more closely related to 2.42 than to MGE the latter is a genuine windows application the former are DOS games in a 32 bit wrapper ...

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