08-05-2002 23:02									#31
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Let me elaborate. The people live like ****. They dont have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. The king and a few others live lavishly. Thy have some serouis grievances with the status quo

At least with the Rebels everyone will live like ****, right.

Not to mention the occasional "re-education"

	08-05-2002 23:14									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Not to mention the occasional "re-education"

Let's not forget the occasional Great Leap Foward and Cultural Revolution they might fancy.

	09-05-2002 00:25									#33
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I've never said the militias were wrong, just misguided.

Oops. I read "militias" as "Maoists". My bad.

Its still a pretty poor argument.

	09-05-2002 00:30									#34
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Wait until the king hires some of the local Gurkha mercenaries to fight.

Those guys don't take understand the concept of 'prisoners'.

It will get much, much worse before it gets better.

And of course it's all a plot by China to grab a nice little 'satellite'.

	09-05-2002 00:30									#35
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Let's not forget the occasional Great Leap Foward and Cultural Revolution they might fancy.

Anything for the 5-year plan I guess. Oh well, it's just another sacriface that has to be made. The people will understand when they are smart enough, but for now those in the rebel groups know best.

	09-05-2002 00:32									#36
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"AND STOP THE HORSESHIT RHETORIC BEFORE IT EVEN STARTS"

	09-05-2002 00:55									#37
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God bless Nepal

	09-05-2002 04:24									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Adam Smith According to the BBC, Nepal is a constitutional monarchy.

It can still be outdated and seclusive despite being constitutional.

	09-05-2002 04:26									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X It can still be outdated and seclusive despite being constitutional.

And commies can still be evil, murdering bastards despite being commies. What's your point?

	09-05-2002 04:30									#40
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I thought they were evil murdering bastards besause they were commies?

	09-05-2002 04:31									#41
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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney I thought they were evil murdering bastards besause they were commies?

I'm humouring him a little.

	09-05-2002 04:32									#42
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc And commies can still be evil, murdering bastards despite being commies. What's your point?

That you can´t make an omelet without cracking a few eggs. Sadly enough I might add.

People don´t rebel without a reason as some other posters have pointed out. There is no democray in Nepal even if the government tries to make it look like that.

	09-05-2002 04:32									#43
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Gotta back AS here... seems that Maoists are trying to overthrow a fairly non-despotic regime. Perhaps a bit autocratic constitutional monarchy, but with free-speech and press... with elections.

The full blame for the mess goes to the rebels. Hope they all suffer horribly .

	09-05-2002 04:45									#44
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You know, Pakistan has also elections, but its hardly what u are thinking of when talking about Democracy.

	09-05-2002 04:55									#45
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Like Pol Pot in Cambodia, the Maoists in Nepal want to burn the entire country in order to "save" it. Neither side of this civil war is worthy of outisde support.

	09-05-2002 04:58									#46
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Kamrat X/Tom201: You don't appear to know much about the government of Nepal. Tell me, on what do you base your knee-jerk support for the Maoist rebels. Somesort of commie brotherhood?

	09-05-2002 05:10									#47
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A communist is a communist is a communist.

No matter which way you try and slice it, all communists are truly proud of Lenin and Stalin at heart.

	09-05-2002 05:31									#48
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quote: Tell me, on what do you base your knee-jerk support for the Maoist rebels.

? I dont, have an opinion about it yet, cose not enough info.
I just pointed out, that real Democracys are non common in that area. A election means nothing without the circumstances.

	09-05-2002 05:37									#49
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Good. I often lie awake at night thinking to myself "When is the tyranny of the government in Nepal going to be stopped."

	09-05-2002 06:44									#50
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quote: Originally posted by rmsharpe A communist is a communist is a communist. No matter which way you try and slice it, all communists are truly proud of Lenin and Stalin at heart.

	09-05-2002 06:54									#51
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From the reports I've seen both the government and the rebels are ****wads.

	09-05-2002 06:56									#52
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quote: A communist is a communist is a communist. No matter which way you try and slice it, all communists are truly proud of Lenin and Stalin at heart.

I've started thinking that their may be some truth to that, if che, a anti-Maoist can back Maoist rebels.

	09-05-2002 08:29									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. President Like Pol Pot in Cambodia, the Maoists in Nepal want to burn the entire country in order to "save" it.

The Khmer Rouge weren't Maoists and didn't get along with Mao. They based their ideas on the French Revolution and Robbespierre.

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And what a model to follow too!

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quote: Originally posted by rmsharpe No matter which way you try and slice it, all communists are truly proud of Lenin and Stalin at heart.

Nothing at all wrong with being proud of Lenin. He was a great thinker and leader. Any communist can only hope to be as great as Lenin.

Stalin was a criminal who derailed the revolution and set socialism back 100 years, maybe more.

	09-05-2002 08:39									#56
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Yes, Stalinism and communism are two entirely different things.

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KamratX:

As I said before, according to Amnesty International,

quote: The political situation turned a corner in May when elections resulted in the establishment of a majority government.

Not to mention the other factors previously cited.
You claim that

quote: There is no democray in Nepal even if the government tries to make it look like that.

Evidence please, or is this simply baseless assertion????

KH:
Are you describing the government's actions before or after the start of the Maoist insurgency?

	09-05-2002 08:54									#58
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The establishment of a majority government for the first time. Given that the war was almost six years old by that point, a little late to prove the anti-democraticness of the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist).

	09-05-2002 08:58									#59
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Well, lets throw in the rebels insistence on one-party government, as reported by the BBC. I fail to see how replacement of even a nascent multiparty system with one party government can be helpful, especially when the one party insists on supporting its position with grenade launchers.

	09-05-2002 09:01									#60
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Multiple parties doesn't guarantee democracy. We've got multiple parties and our system is farce. The litmus test as to whether a government is democratic or not is the amount of input it gets from the people and how much control over their government they have. Reports I have read indicate there is quite a lot of popular control in the liberated zones of Nepal.