05-05-2001 07:29									#1
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Me thinks so. There are more ways in the modern era to transport your units than via sea. I found it agrivating in Civ2 that you couldn't move your units via air.

I think you should be able to move 5 infantry units per airplane...or 2 tank/artillery/mod inftanty units etc etc.

What are other peoples thoughts?

	05-05-2001 07:55									#2
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In Civ2, you can definitely move units via air transport by using airports. This is sufficient and I do not see the need to actually load units into cargo planes and move them around.

	05-05-2001 09:30									#4
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They had the helicopter thing in CtP2. It was so-so.

	05-05-2001 18:05									#7
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IŽd love real air transport. Planes and helis! Since we have sea transport, air transport is the next step.

"Normal" units could need an entire turn to "land", paratroopers and other special forces could make paradrops and attacks in the same turn...

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	05-05-2001 20:59									#8
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Well airports aren't suitable I think,
you Should be able to land troops on airstrips at least..
helicopters would be useful for transporting vehicles and troops over rough terrain, a role which airports don't cater for.

What about ground trucks too.. they should be able to transport units faster than an ancient legion could go for example.

This shows the holes in the old Civ2's combat system which needs to be fixed.. just make troops move faster if they can be supplied with trucks after automobiles discovered..

Railroads also move too fast.. or should roads be speeded up?

Admiral Pete

	06-05-2001 09:07									#9
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I think that Helicopters shall be able to transport land units, And that paratroopers shall be able to attack from them as Marinas from transports.

	06-05-2001 05:43									#10
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The railroad issue is a dicey one. It makes movement of troops more realistic in the modern age, but, yes, it does seem to move them to fast.

Roads I think should be sped up, costing 1/5th of a movement point instead of 1/3rd.

	07-05-2001 00:38									#11
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I disagree. You can't transport a large number of units effectivly in planes. Thats WHY we have transports. Tanks are freaking heavy. Artillery is even worse. Leave the armies on the ground and on the sea please.

	07-05-2001 13:35									#13
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I suppose we miss all this when Firaxis decided to cut the Unit Workshop concept out of Civ III. I would like to see a better developed Unit Workshop, learning from SMAC errors, but lots of fans think different.

Now they get what they deserve, with CIV predefined and fixed special units

Generally speaking, it seems to me the level of military details in Civ is uncertain: Firaxis is not sure if steer to a more tactical military (sea transport of troops by dedicated ships) or keep them as strategical as possible (instant move of units between airports, but with silly "risk o enemy planes shooting your transport" - how in the hell I can't escort them with my fighters as I do with my ships?).

If Firaxis will go on "tactical" side, then transport planes and choppers are acceptable (but very limited to modern time, and with reduced capacity); OTOH, if they go back to strategical side, they can ignore anything different from a tweak to airport rules, e.g. the ability to extend air transport to the airfields built by engineer outside of cities.

Just a final note: it needs a great game AI improvement if we want to really see all this advanced air rules at work, because too often in CIV II and SMAC they come in action when the game is almost over.

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	08-05-2001 05:16									#15
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If they did, I am sure they would have the C-130, not the C-5. It's much more common.