10-05-2002 19:59									#1
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It is the second time I've noticed this thing.

On Marla's Earth map, playing the Babylonians, it seems that rivers don't grant a free aquaduct. At least not in Iraq...

The city in the picture named Enoch is located firmly on a river, but still has to build an aquaduct.

Also, for some reason the squares around the city could not be irrigated. I had to irrigate from two tiles north west of the city.

I looked at the map in the editor, but everything seems to be in order.

Any ideas?

-Alech

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	10-05-2002 20:04									#2
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I had the same problem with a map I made once... though I'd bet if Enoch were built on the other side of one of those rivers, it would be ok. Right-click on the surrounding squares... those with the river bonus will have +1 trade.

I don't understand why it happens, sorry.

-Arrian

	10-05-2002 20:08									#3
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It is probably a bug. A user-created maps bug.

	10-05-2002 20:44									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Right-click on the surrounding squares... those with the river bonus will have +1 trade.

Dead on!

A good deal of the squares surrounding river, esp. when multiple rivers touch the same square, are not classed as river, and give no bonus to trade...

-Alech

	10-05-2002 21:39									#5
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I have never had that problem. How is the food supply? In that photo you don't have the wheat or the flood plains irrigated. But you have the plains irrigated. Could it be that you are not using the surrounding area good enough? Just a thought. It's a shame I can't click on your pic and zoom in to the city

	10-05-2002 22:05									#6
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It's not a problem with food.

Here is a closer look. I can build an aqueduct, but I'm not supposed to...

-Alech

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	11-05-2002 02:22									#7
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Isn't there a bug somewhere that made the no aquaduct thing only available with flood plains.

	11-05-2002 16:36									#8
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Heh, well this city is on flood plains...

	11-05-2002 18:57									#9
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Naah I'm pretty certain I've seen cities on all grassland grow above 6 without aqueducts.

	11-05-2002 19:05									#10
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I've noticed this bug too, a few months ago on Marla's, but also on other user created maps. I reported it in one of Marla's threads, but there seems to be nothing wrong from her side. Must be an editor bug.

	11-05-2002 19:18									#11
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Probably not the reason, but just maybe, since it only happens where two rivers are ...

Maybe each tile has a toggle: River or No River ... and maybe the first river toggles the tile, saying "yes it is a river", and then the second river toggles the tile, intending to say "yes it is a river", but since the toggle is already on, it switches it off instead.

Probably not correct, but since some are saying it happens between rivers only, made me think of it.

	11-05-2002 19:29									#12
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Yes, but why only user created maps are this way? I never noticed this bug at random maps.

	11-05-2002 19:33									#13
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My theory for that is its a cunning plot by INCAN SECRET AGENTS to mess with custom map users.

	11-05-2002 20:36									#14
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quote: Originally posted by nato My theory for that is its a cunning plot by INCAN SECRET AGENTS to mess with custom map users.

That's what my money is on.

I think it's a "two river bug"... And I think it might occur on random maps to. But, I've never seen two rivers so close on one.

-Alech

	11-05-2002 21:43									#15
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It was a bug with the editor before 1.17f that made rivers not set to be on all of the tiles next to it, and maps created before 1.17f will have that problem.

	11-05-2002 22:51									#16
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so... how do we fix Marla's map then?

	11-05-2002 23:53									#17
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Could you 'repaint' all the rivers and save it again with the 1.21 editor?

	12-05-2002 01:00									#18
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Could you 'repaint' all the rivers and save it again with the 1.21 editor?

hi ,

well , what about getting the map without mod , from civ3.com , ..get the tool that we have to thank Gramhos for , by the way , nice job "G" , and that should do it right , .....the maps on civ3 should work fine with 1.21 , right , ...??

have a nice day