12-05-2002 17:26									#91
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probably... but that won't happen in this place, at least not that easily... BTW, before you get a wrong idea, I'm not being elitist or anything... it just doesn't work out well with everyone

	12-05-2002 17:32									#92
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No, it's not about being an elitist. Although I myself get that feeling from time to time I rather like to think of it like being different not better. As for the real subject. There might be a people out there that's worth meeting but your missing out on because of your melancholy.* They don't have to be exacly like you, they might be very different, but they might be worth it.

* a interesting note here is that serious and long lasting melancholy in the past was thought to lead to lykantrophy (as from latin for wolf and man). Thus Hesse's Steppenwolf

	12-05-2002 17:34									#93
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I know, and I know such people... but then they'r enot the kind to go out regularly either... besides, there's not a lot to do as in "going out and socialising", but pubbing or clubbing in the evenings... and that cost money

	12-05-2002 17:36									#94
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they realize I'm there, then look away. As in "go away, perv!". every single one.

Because you expect them to do so and you're probably wearing sneakers, jeans and a t-shirt and giving a general image of sexual insecurity. They're shallow as hell, so the real question is - why even bother approaching them - why is this reaction relevant? What do you want from them? It's the wrong enviroment for one-night-stands and they sure aren't competent to discuss Hesse either.

Join a party, a grassroot organization, get involved in some cause, use the Internet to seek out people in your local area. The trick is that you move around social circles of people with common interests so there's never any ackward silence.

	12-05-2002 17:39									#95
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now that's odd... BTW, I tend to wear light trousers and a sweatshirt, which should be just fine enough

	12-05-2002 17:40									#96
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Oh well the money issue. Time to rob a bank I'd say

	12-05-2002 17:40									#97
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Yeah - I actually went to a club by myself last night, nothing wrong with that at all, and I actually prefer it that way now considering you don't have to feel bad when you're dancing with girls and your friends are standing around like losers

Well I have started going out to clubs on my own, I find it can be quite helpful in certain situations where you feel more compelled to talk to other people rather than stick in your group.

All I can say is Andy is to relax, but often, none of the advice is any good when you don't know how to implement it or act upon it. It takes a lot of courage and determination, and I feel things are improving slowly, but no amount of people telling you what to do is going to help unless you can do things yourself. You need a change of scenery, like I need a change of scenery. But sometimes you doubt whether even this will help. So just keep going, there is nothing wrong with a pint now and again, damn I seem to drink enough lately.

So just hope for the best, you are only young yet, look at the mistakes and misjudgements I have made through my life and try and learn what has taken me almost a decade to figure out, and then I still have some way to go.

	12-05-2002 17:40									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Monk Join a party, a grassroot organization, get involved in some cause, use the Internet to seek out people in your local area. The trick is that you move around social circles of people with common interests so there's never any ackward silence.

And that's the problem... I haven't been to a party yet that was only halfway fun like that.. parties in this area (or at least those of friends of mine) tend to be boring parties in small circles... and if there are several of those small circles, they stay separated... so by that, I'd need a big party of something very common... I just don't have any interests like that,

	12-05-2002 19:51									#99
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Hormones.

You have loads of them swimming around your head and love spuds at the moment.

They affect your emotions.

When they get out of whack, you get depressed and angsty and whimper on forums. Or write crap poetry.

It'll pass.

	12-05-2002 20:48									#100
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but what about the rational facts? do they go away as well?

	12-05-2002 23:42									#101
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The first step is to stop wearing f*cking sweatshirts

	12-05-2002 23:43									#102
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And quite how is the wearing of such a garment relevent Zylka? Should he be wearing a pastel shirt instead and looking like a right townie twat?

	12-05-2002 23:45									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion but what about the rational facts? do they go away as well?

Nope. You just stop caring about them.

	13-05-2002 01:40									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion My skin is clean, I get sun, I wear... normal clothes (cool clothes are silly, I'd rather be a virgin than preppy ), my hair is short, 17-year-olds can't be found on ICQ for the minimum age for searching is 18, and as for the rest...: It's true I'm not doing a lot to change my situation. The first to guess the reason wins a prize.

Aids, Herpes, mono, bad breath?

do I win the prize?

	13-05-2002 01:47									#105
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all of them, GP, all of them

BFB - to be quite honest, I've made such observations before. you might have a point there

	13-05-2002 01:59									#106
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After having been turned away by Lucky number 17, the first thing I'm doing later is getting TANKED!!


To hell with sobreity!

Ect, believe me, I feel you're pain. I'm not a virgin, but the only two girls I had sex with was a hooker when I was fifteen and my friend's ex-girlfriend who was a heffer. Cheer up... it COULD be worse....


Meanwhile, I'm going to a club by myself real soon... oh yes! The kind where the girls dance on tables... TOOTLES!

	13-05-2002 02:02									#107
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don't like that sort of clubs

and yeah, 17 was cool... it was the best age ever... 18 has mroe rights but feels older and more responsible as well

	13-05-2002 02:04									#108
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I know this might seem a bit naughty, but drinking that bottle of beer (it was a Radeberger, BTW, a real good one) also had a practical reason - there was nothing left to drink at my place exept for the beer (and the hard stuff, duh), but though I thought it was sort of creepy, since I had never drunk on my own before and always vowed to me not to do it... weekend's not over yet, still no chance to get a drink, feeling thirsty again

nah...

	13-05-2002 02:06									#109
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I'll take a whisky for you then Echt., a Laphroaig 10 years old. Enjoy

	13-05-2002 02:08									#110
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*sings*

Whack for the daddy-o, there's whisky in the jar...

(as in Irish folk melody not that crap rock version)

	13-05-2002 02:09									#111
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Ah, I still thought 17 sucked. I wasn't gettin' laid then, and I'm not gettin' laid now. It's been a pain in the ass finding friends here... I can't wait to get out of New Jersey. Whatever you people heard about it, it's true! It's all true!


BTW, who's the girl in Zylka's avatar?

	13-05-2002 02:10									#112
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There's about a thousand versions of that old song, let's make it into a Shane mCGowan-version...

	13-05-2002 02:11									#113
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Please don't sing Andy, the last singing was more than enough for a lifetime

	13-05-2002 02:12									#114
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she's ugly

if anyone can aid me 'tis me brother in the army
if I can find ´his station, in cork or in killarney
if he'll join with me we'll go roaming in kilkenny (sidenote: had that beer 2 nights ago. it sucks)
and I'm sure he'd treat me better than me own me sporting jenny

mush-a-ring-dumma-doo-dumma-da
whack for the daddy-o
whack for the daddy-o there's whisky in the jar

	13-05-2002 02:15									#115
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Attachment: ecthywhisky.wav
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

	13-05-2002 02:16									#116
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Jeez! I'm leavin now! This place has deteriorated into a Brit pub.

	13-05-2002 02:16									#117
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And it started of as a Kraut whining

	13-05-2002 02:17									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion kilkenny (sidenote: had that beer 2 nights ago. it sucks)

What!?! Heresy!!!!

Last friday around three I went to the student pub for a pint or two or three of kilkenny after a hard day in the library (read: I drank coffee and talked with some buddies for 3-4 hours before the pub opened) and the tap was broken I schouted at the poor bartender 'cause they couldn't get it repaired before monday

	13-05-2002 02:19									#119
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Kilkenny is sh!t, at least that they serve there... and so is their guiness

	13-05-2002 02:21									#120
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Ewwww, Guiness, can't stand that stuff, it is like drinking silt.