14-05-2002 19:31									#1
	CivIII; does something better exists? Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

I have played CIVI and found it a revelation.

CIVII was better.

SMAC was going all the way.

And today I can only say that the AI of CIVIII is so far the best.

Can anybody tell me if there is something similar or even better on the market in TBS?

	14-05-2002 20:03									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I've played all civ games and after civ2 I've really enjoyed Master of Orion2. If you haven't played it yet, I suggest you get to the shop immediately and order it. I'm not playing it anymore as I'm waiting for MOO 3.

AJ

	14-05-2002 23:04									#3
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For me Civ(1) was great, civ2 was ok, SMAC sucked that much, so I never ever finnished a game, CtP(1 and 2) had some great things, but too many holes, Civ3 rules. Civ3 is the best TBS I have ever played, though I must admit I'm more into Tycoon types of games, so for me there exists better games...

	14-05-2002 23:21									#4
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Best TBS I ever played was Jagged Alliance 2...nothing and I mean nothing goes above this thing..
On second place comes Age of Wonders...a fantasy TBS mix of Civ and magic...awesome
As a wargamer Civ3 sucked IMO, if you can build 50 different military units and can't use them properly why the hell are they there in the first place....I had more fun with Risk II....

Something better?? Well, keep an eye on Age of Wonders II(www.ageofwonders.com), download the demo and check it out...massive improvements over the first one and as CivIII did, more user-friendly.

Last edited by da_jaymz on 15-05-2002 at 02:33

	15-05-2002 02:32									#5
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I liked XCOM, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, Pirates!, Wasteland, Red Baron, Gunship, MULE, Command HQ and some more better

	16-05-2002 05:12									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

SMAC was a great game, if only for the storyline. Extremely well-thought out...

	16-05-2002 07:44									#7
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Well, personally I will take Civ II and Civ I over Civ III. Especially Civ I. I think that was the most fun of the three by far.

SMAC is also better. Has a lot of interesting design concepts and features that were cut from Civ III, which made it in some ways a step back from SMAC. So I would SMAC is probably the best TBS out there.

	17-05-2002 01:57									#8
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Try Europa Universalis 2. Granted, its a RTS game, but it has nothing to do with games like Command and Conquer, Starcraft or Age of empires. It's a grand, strategic empire-building game. Just like Civ 3, except that its in real-time. Moreover, its much more historical than Civ 3, giving it a lot more flavor.

	17-05-2002 02:19									#9
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civ2 is better

	17-05-2002 05:07									#10
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EU2.

	20-05-2002 03:33									#11
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modded CtP2 -- part of the Civ genre and beats Civ3 hands down...