16-05-2002 01:16									#31
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Oh well, I guess this means Harry Potter will now become our Prime Minister

	16-05-2002 01:18									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Oh well, I guess this means Harry Potter will now become our Prime Minister

Yep, but I don't see what there is to laugh about... And ain't it time to change your avatar?

	16-05-2002 01:18									#33
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Damn Hueij, that sucks

Ec, huh?

Harry Potter?

	16-05-2002 01:20									#34
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IW, the way you put it it's a matter of the actual course a governing party takes. As a joke, I said it was a matter of the party's 'colour', its official affiliation and all that...

	16-05-2002 01:21									#35
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Oh come on, Hueij, lighten up. I dislike CDA as well but the idea of having a wizard as PM is kinda funny in a way

Jan Peter Balkenende aka Harry Potter:

	16-05-2002 01:21									#36
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oh. oh yes. ho ho.

Harry Potter?

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	16-05-2002 01:22									#37
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Damn Muggles.

	16-05-2002 01:23									#38
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don't be silly now

both of you

	16-05-2002 01:28									#39
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Well by the sound of it, you shot the wrong man!

	16-05-2002 01:29									#40
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quote: Oh come on, Hueij, lighten up.

Ja, you're right... But I was really shocked when I saw the first polls at 9 pm tonight... [dutch expression]The soup won't be eaten as hot as it was served[/dutch expression] But still...

	16-05-2002 01:32									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat Well, they have been in every coalition government from 1918 to 1994, and according to the BBC: It can't be so bad can it?

It is, to those in this forum who think that leftists are, by definition, better people than Christian Democrats. That's not what I think, although I will probably never vote CD.

Melkert's and Rosenmöller's arrogance coming home to roost... A sight for sore eyes.

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	16-05-2002 01:43									#42
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Would someone please post the platform of the Christian Democrat party in the Netherlands? I'd like to find out for myself if they are @#$%ed.

	16-05-2002 01:54									#43
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Would someone please post the platform of the Christian Democrat party in the Netherlands? I'd like to find out for myself if they are @#$%ed.

If your Dutch is up to par: http://www.stemcda.nl/domains/cda/p...93&navid=499_66
I hope you don't mind that I'm not going to translate all those pages

	16-05-2002 01:59									#44
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Would someone please post the platform of the Christian Democrat party in the Netherlands? I'd like to find out for myself if they are @#$%ed.

CDA is a union of three former Christian parties, one Roman Catholic, two Protestant.
In matters of economy they are a party of the centre, somewhere in the middle between the PvdA (Social Democrats) and the more conservative VVD, but with an important social paragraph, based on their Christian identity. Their left wing (mainly Protestants) have been known to be allies of the left, but there has always been a right wing which felt more attracted to the VVD, the main right-wing party.
Regarding euthanasia, abortion, gay rights, they are conservative, but never reactionary.
Explaining the CDA to Americans, I would say it can be situated somewhere in between the Democrats and the Republicans, but closer to the Democrats.

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	16-05-2002 02:04									#45
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quote: Melkert's and Rosenmöller's arrogance coming home to roost...

You work for Spong's office?

	16-05-2002 02:05									#46
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"Explaining the CDA to Americans, I would say it can be situated somewhere in between the Democrats and the Republicans, but closer to the Democrats."

An American shorthand is that they are "Reagan Democrats". By and large these are now Republicans and independents and make up 15-20% of the electorate.

So the CDA is slightly left of Germany's CDU?

	16-05-2002 02:06									#47
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The right gains more power in Europe.

Perhaps we shall start to see sounder economic policies as a result.

	16-05-2002 02:08									#48
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quote: Perhaps we shall start to see sounder economic policies as a result.

Yep, let's all worship St Economy

	16-05-2002 02:18									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Oldenbarnevelt Explaining the CDA to Americans, I would say it can be situated somewhere in between the Democrats and the Republicans, but closer to the Democrats.

Then why all the chicken little talk from your fellow countryman?

	16-05-2002 02:21									#50
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quote: Originally posted by DanS [So the CDA is slightly left of Germany's CDU?

Exactly!

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	16-05-2002 02:27									#51
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From the BBC news pages:

Exit polls:
Christian Democrats: 40
Pim Fortuyn List: 26
Labour Party: 24
VVD: 24

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wo...000/1990159.stm

	16-05-2002 02:27									#52
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quote: Then why all the chicken little talk from your fellow countryman?

Because his (this) fellow countryman is one of those "loony lefties"...

Anyway, the Socialist Party (most left wing party out here) doubled their seats in parliament

	16-05-2002 02:27									#53
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"Christian Democrats? From what you describe that sounds like a real step backwards. If they try and take back your rights that you have fought for all this time, take to the streets!"

Isn't it funny how the far left always talks about how they believe in democracy and how they want to extend democracy to everything- but then when democracy gives them a result they don't like they can't accept it.

	16-05-2002 02:30									#54
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quote: but then when democracy gives them a result they don't like they can't accept it.

BS... The left did't lose. The center did. Just remember your left isn't our left...

	16-05-2002 02:34									#55
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I was reffering to Provost Harrison. He is far left, and he didn't like the results of the election, and so he advocates taking to the streets.

	16-05-2002 02:37									#56
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quote: Isn't it funny how the far left always talks about how they believe in democracy and how they want to extend democracy to everything- but then when democracy gives them a result they don't like they can't accept it.

That is incredibly amusing.

	16-05-2002 02:39									#57
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A democratic 'win' doesn't necessarily give a party the automatic right to rescind the rights and freedoms of its citizens. One of the basic tenets of a liberal democracy. If the government attempts it, the population are well within their rights to demonstrate against that government.

	16-05-2002 02:40									#58
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Then why all the chicken little talk from your fellow countryman?

Their view seems to be that, seeing as the Left is always right by definition, all others must be wrong, and probably bad, or mad, etc. To describe this kind of people (broadly the Politically Correct), Fortuyn coined the epiteth "de linkse kerk", the Leftist Church.

I didn't vote Fortuyn, I didn't vote CDA, I didn't vote for a leftist party, the party I voted for lost 15 seats, and I feel fine, thank you. -

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	16-05-2002 02:44									#59
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I'm with the Provost on this one.

	16-05-2002 02:45									#60
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I think people are over reacting, the CDA is not that bad I think. social are they centre just like the previous government was. I also woulnd't fair the moral somewhat conservative stance because you can't rule the nation allone and I don't know another party who shares there moral conservative ideology.