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Jaybe
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Las Vegas, NV USA
Sep 2001
time: 21:19
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For me, the largest AI stack I've seen is 60+. They were 'just passing through' to the poor Aztecs on the other side of me, without an RoP agreement with me.
It all started when I signed an MPP with them, and then the 'hot-headed' Aztecs made a pass through my borders in force. I was much bigger than they. I told them to scram, they declared war, The Chinese chimed in (their's is the huge stack), and over the years have gotten most everyone else against the Aztecs. I long since have taken all the good Aztec land and made peace with them. The Chinese stack of everything from Swordsmen to Infantry is still about 6 squares from what's left of the Aztecs.
I have now closed my border with the Chinese so they don't continue streaming across. Besides, they (and everyone else) finally got their act together and invaded by sea. Meanwhile, the Aztec communists have 8-12 1-and-2 size towns left, a couple dozen infantry and 1-4 tanks, all in hills and tundra (I have a spy in their war ministry), and basically no resources. I couldn't help them if I wanted to, trade-wise -- no harbors and no roads.
End of ramble...
JB
Last edited by Jaybe on 20-05-2002 at 09:52
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Zylka
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I think that's an idea
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Zylka
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actually I'd say more than 60
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Jaybe
Request to Firaxis:
If a horde of barbarians beset a town, and are victorious, let there be at least a chance that they raze it (if there isn't already). Either that, or hold it for ransom (sizeable $$). The one time that a horde successfully hit a town of mine, they took little cash, and then they poofed into thin air.
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I agree. I've been hit by so many barbs that after a while, they weren't doing any damage, just sacking the same size one city over and over. What's the point. Either capture or raze the city or just move to another target.
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star mouse
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of the Barbarians
Aug 2001
time: 16:19
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This happened to me yesterday.
I was minding my own business, playing a peaceful game of build-everything-in-all-my-cities when 91 French units (mostly Riflemen and Infantry, with a few Musketeers) showed up on my borders, in a part of my empire that I had taken from the recently-killed Chinese, who had in their turn taken from the also-dead Germans (neither of them were killed off by me, BTW). The French had a long-standing ROP agreement with me and weren't at war with anyone. Fearing an imminent invasion, I drafted a few Infantry and formed a line across their path to block access to my rail system. Then I cancelled the ROP with the French. Deprived of access to my extensive rail network, the troops left my empire, and I haven't seen them since. I wonder where they went.
In the meantime, I applied new technology, and started building lots of tanks and some extra Infantry. I had amassed about 60 or 70 tanks over about 5-10 turns when the Zulu got too tempted by a few workers I had working on the border and declared war to kill the workers off. Gee, poor Zulu, I almost felt sorry for them, declaring war on me when I was so able to kill them off. Over the course of a single turn that took me over an hour to play, I captured half of their cities with my new tank armies, fortified each with three Infantry, captured many Zulu workers, used the captured workers to build new railways to aid the offensive, and upgraded about half of my 200 Infantry to Mech Infantry.
Ah, 1796. That year will go down in history as a glorious year for the Japanese Empire (and the longest turn I have ever played in Civ3).
As an aside, I think a good way to pick a fight with an AI is to leave a lot of offensive troops sitting on their border and wait for them to attack you.
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Jaybe
For me, the largest AI stack I've seen is 60+. They were 'just passing through' to the poor Aztecs on the other side of me, without an RoP agreement with me.
It all started when I signed an MPP with them, and then the 'hot-headed' Aztecs made a pass through my borders in force. I was much bigger than they. I told them to scram, they declared war, The Chinese chimed in (their's is the huge stack), and over the years have gotten most everyone else against the Aztecs. I long since have taken all the good Aztec land and made peace with them. The Chinese stack of everything from Swordsmen to Infantry is still about 6 squares from what's left of the Aztecs.
I have now closed my border with the Chinese so they don't continue streaming across. Besides, they (and everyone else) finally got their act together and invaded by sea. Meanwhile, the Aztec communists have 8-12 1-and-2 size towns left, a couple dozen infantry and 1-4 tanks, all in hills and tundra (I have a spy in their war ministry), and basically no resources. I couldn't help them if I wanted to, trade-wise -- no harbors and no roads.
End of ramble...
JB |
hi ,
got some nuke's , ...........
or some money to spare , ........?
have a nice day
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Jaybe
panag,
It's just approaching time to be able to build Tactical Nukes, but no-one has built 'the bomb' yet. If it was available, I THINK the Chinese are my only obstacle to a cultural win.
... or were you referencing something else?
Have a fulfilling day,
JB |
hi ,
hmmm , money , .......so they can buy units , close the border with them , so their enemy cant move true , ..........give them a city with everything in it , when they are down to a couple city's , make sure no one can get at that city , ..................
allas , you could also start a war with the foreign troops that "thread" on you , .........;
have a nice day
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Jaybe
panag,
The Chinese are the only civ which I believe have HALF the culture I have (according to F8). I have about 126,000 culture at this point.
May your today be almost as great as tomorrow! 
JB |
hi ,
last line , if you would only know, .........
so , you are racing for cultural victory hé , .......pfffff, no fun , ....snif , snif , then the game is over to fast , ......
have a nice day
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:19
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Originally posted by Sir Ralph
The biggest stack I saw was a French force of over 60 footsoldiers, with 1.21f. Mostly infantries, with riflemen, musketeers, pikemen and even swordsmen mixed in. Went through my whole empire, mostly in one stack or close together. They had a RoP with me and were attacking our common enemy Russia. I was faster capturing the Russian cities with my tanks tho, so after defeating a few longbowmen (which I left them generously) they went the same way back thru my empire, without doing me any harm. |
hi ,
it seems that if the game gets "older" , has more turns , after a while the comp learns a bit , not the comp the "AI" , ....and changes from one or two stacks , not talking about "chokepoints" , moves in small , sometimes up to 20 (!) groups , in each group , up to 20 units ,......
patch 1.21 , the higest two levels , default level for the AI on deity
have a nice day
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Adm.Naismith
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Milano - Italy
Oct 1999
time: 06:19
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In a game (v 1.17, medium map, IIRC) I was tied to a long war against Roman, while the English gained tech and territory. I kept peace with them for long time, and I have my only border with them guarded by a town and two fortress (one over a mountain, with cannon and a rifleman). They suddendly attacked me, using they railroad to quickly ammass troops on my border in a stack of over 40 units.
I tried also a reload to understand why they attack me (changing last moves and trying to give English a small preventive gift) but without results. (at that point I was already experimenting, no way to try to win my game).
I fortified my troops a bit better and resisted to the first and second assault (the AI retreated many damaged units into nearest city, while they can still crush me if they sustained the attack on second turn, but OTOH it was a good tactic to preserve its force.
I barely survived, drafting citizen like crazy (I was in democracy), but it was a bloodbath, so I resigned.
Edited:
My fortress where useless: the enemy ignored them and I haven't gained a single opportunity fire from my fortified units. Probably I've forgotten the correct ZOC rules, but I'm pretty sure I had similar fortress in another game, with better results. 
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