21-05-2002 04:41									#1
	Are people expecting too much?` Get a bigger avatar today!

Just a thought - we've got people banging on about scenarios with flat maps, adding new eras, revamped editors. So far, all that's been confirmed are a scenario editor (although how that will work out is questionable), new civs, some new worker build actions, multiplayer and...? Perhaps we'll get more solid info closer to release. I definately want to know more about the scenario editor before I buy!

Last edited by zulu9812 on 23-05-2002 at 04:31

	21-05-2002 04:53									#2
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Some people are expecting too much, some people aren't, and some even refuse to buy the XP because they think that it was features that should've been included in the original release (you people know who you are, so feel free NOT to share that with us).

Personally, I'm not going to make too many expectations. That way, it will be easier to get over it if the XP is a crock, and I'll be all the more happy if it turns Civ III into the masterpiece it should've been.

But I'll definitely want to know what I'm buying, so I'll read reviews and stuff like that at the time of release before I actually go out and buy.

	21-05-2002 05:43									#3
	Got spare money?

Depends. I often thinks people expect too much, and this will lead to much whining as PtW won't ever match the astronomical expectations of some (as Civ3 didn't match the expectations of many, hence the whining)
But I love taking part of the speculation from the tyniest bit of info, simply because it's fun. But all my wishes and stupid speculations sure aren't my expecations, which are rpetty reasonable :
- a scenario editor, ala Civ2, without any scripting language (that will be for the second expansion)
- I'm not sure if the graphic sets will come with according scenarios, and I don't mind : the fans will soon have done better scenarios with these than the Firaxians anyways.
- A working MP (I'm not an MP fan, so I'm not that enthusiastic)
- Now that I've seen the screenshots, a slightly enhanced interface, nothing astounding.
- 8 new Civs, maybe with a new Civ-trait or two. That would be great, but the probabilities for it are under 20% IMO.
- Some changes made to diplomacy in order to adapt the diplomacy model to MP. Weak probability they add an information screen to know something about a rival without disturbing him.

Anyhow, if the XP holds only its promises without any extra, I think it will be worth $30(well, 35 €).

	21-05-2002 12:29									#4
	Put an end to popups!

quote: Originally posted by Spiffor - a scenario editor, ala Civ2, without any scripting language (that will be for the second expansion)

Ah! The second cash-in!

	21-05-2002 12:48									#5
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Personally, I don't have a great expectation for the XP. I just want what is advertised, the 8 new civs (yes I know I could add my own if I got off my lazy ass) radar, airbases, MP (though I won't play much). If the scenario editor/creator is great ( which I hope) then that is just cake, to me. Course, I am happy with the game, which means that unless they screw up the game, I will be ok with it.

	21-05-2002 13:03									#6
	Suffering from ads?

atw has captured my sentiment.

I'd go further and fervently hope that people not get their hopes too high. I don't wanna be around here when they are dashed. It aint never going to be SMAC at 4000bc, sorry. Civ is NOT, and never will be SMAC.

	21-05-2002 14:36									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by notyoueither I'd go further and fervently hope that people not get their hopes too high. I don't wanna be around here when they are dashed. It aint never going to be SMAC at 4000bc, sorry. Civ is NOT, and never will be SMAC.

Here here.

We've already had more than our fill of the whiners and their useless ranting over the original game itself.

	21-05-2002 22:42									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Are we expecting to much? No, if the last six months of these forum proves anything it's that we have an ability to accept to little...

	21-05-2002 22:51									#9
	Get a bigger avatar today!

I'm with ATW and NYE. I want my scenario editor, MP, and a few tweaks. As long as those are included I'll be happy. Anything extra will be icing on the cake.

	21-05-2002 23:46									#10
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Heh, of course they are, where would the whiners go once PTW comes out if they wern't expecting too much? But seriously, i'm just waiting for it to come out so I can try it like I did with Civ3. Its fine to want something in a game thats coming out, its a different thing to expect it in a game thats coming out.

	22-05-2002 03:26									#11
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Expecting what has been advertised is not too high of an expectation. Expecting a 'real' scenario editor (i.e. including flat maps) is not too high of an expectation, either, because a scenario editor has been advertised as part of the produt.

	22-05-2002 03:55									#12
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I know I am.

	22-05-2002 18:28									#13
	Support Apolyton

"MOO !!!!!" said the cash cow.

	22-05-2002 21:28									#14
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

"Moo" said the company that had to cover the costs of a highly paid team to work on another game for an extra year and a half...