21-05-2002 17:10									#2
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Are these 'Poly exclusives, Markos? Nice work!

Seems they're not ripping out their graphics work anyway. That's good.

	21-05-2002 17:23									#3
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nope, they are not exclusive, i've also seen them on ign
however, on ign you will be able to see only 5 of them. the rest tomorrow

	21-05-2002 17:51									#4
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Uh oh! Put my name back on the waiting list. I'll pay just for the eye candy.

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	21-05-2002 20:37									#5
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They've polished the graphics and interface. Good news, but cross your fingers for the rest ( namely the AI ) which we can't barely have an idea before the release.

	21-05-2002 21:00									#6
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It seems that, except for the first one, these screenshots are nothing new.

One has a "Religion" rating. (gone a long time ago).
They have "IFPs" counters at the top (IFPs are gone since last month).
They have buttons on the sides of the screen (removed last month too).

Your credibility is at stakes, Folks!! I hope you'll show more recent stuff to the guys at E3!

	21-05-2002 23:50									#7
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quote: Originally posted by vishniac It seems that, except for the first one, these screenshots are nothing new.

You are correct in that. I don't know where those shot originated from, but all the new promo stuff that we're sending out can be noted in a very easy way. The Side Bar Buttons are not there. If the shot has the sidebars, then it's not current.

And yes, we're showing more current stuff at E3.

Rantz Hoseley
Art Director
Quicksilver Software, Inc.

	22-05-2002 00:00									#8
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Hi Rantz,

glad to have you here!

the shots are from the Infogrames E3 (yes, the 2002 one) press info site

	22-05-2002 00:11									#9
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG Hi Rantz, glad to have you here!

glad to be here, very civilized

quote: the shots are from the Infogrames E3 (yes, the 2002 one) press info site

LOL, well that's rather humorous...

accurate screens should start appearing after tomorrow (beginning of E3)

thanks

Rantz Hoseley
Art Director
Quicksilver Software, Inc.

	22-05-2002 02:41									#10
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Ah, Rantz!!
These guys at Infogrames...really sabotaging the PR these days!
First the Kangamoo (the so-called 'demo'), then obsolete screenshots.....
Don't let them touch the Game itself!!

quote: glad to be here, very civilized

Yeah, though people here seem to be a little pessimistic perhaps (like me ).

	22-05-2002 02:49									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Rantz glad to be here, very civilized

I'm sure that'll change as soon as some nitwit spreads the word about your appearance here back on Delphi.

	22-05-2002 03:22									#12
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quote: Originally posted by moominparatrooper I'm sure that'll change as soon as some nitwit spreads the word about your appearance here back on Delphi.

Oh my gawd!!! Thanks for reminding me!

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	29-05-2002 11:21									#13
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Even though the graphics are somewhat outdated they are polished and do seemingly portray what players will be looking at in-game in a clean fashion. And yeah, it isn't the purdy pictures in this game that matters, it is the gameplay. At least they are not giving out leader pictures and gloating on great graphics while failing to mention anything about the game itself really, a la Civilization III.

	29-05-2002 13:47									#14
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You are totally correct Lodi. While I can't personally say I'm enthused by the looks of the game, who cares as long as it's a good game? It's not like some of my long-standing favorites, MOM or MOO, have better graphics...

And you have to give QS credit for posting real shots, not corny FMVs or fluff like leader anims.

	30-05-2002 07:48									#15
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Indeed. The focus on fancy graphics should really focus on games where they have an integral impact, such as a first person shooter. Doom III is not only catching quite a few interested glances on it by being the reincarnation of everyone's favorite shareware epic, but by pushing to new limits on graphics. ID Software is expected to create new benchmarks in the genre and computer gaming by focusing on graphics that may ultimately melt 64 MB video cards.

I just found it irrelevant when reviewers pick up strategy games such as Civ III or Imperialism II and make points on how they have dated graphics. Sure they are dated, but the true content of the game is the gameplay for these types of games, usually. Graphics in these type of games are to relay the relevant information to the players. But I guess this somewhat points out there are not enough strategy game enthusiasts represented amongst game reviewers. Which is fine really. But if they have a bias againt 'slower' and 'uglier' games they should be upfront and not present what they feel as an ultimate truth.

	30-05-2002 12:46									#16
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Asking for ubiased reviewers is somewhat akin to asking for uncorrupt politicos.

That people on this board complain so loudly 'bout the graphics is more disturbing. People were bemoaning Civ3 graphics, which are indeed more than adequate for this typ of game. Civ3's problems have absolutely nothin go do with graphics.

So let's just hope that the less than inspiring eye candy in Moo3 is the biggest problem that game will ever have, shall we?

	30-05-2002 19:04									#17
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Yeah, but good graphics will help sell any game ( and good looking things will sell better than ugly things in general) else most of these games could just be all text...yum...sexy...NOT!

Also note that reviewers use categories like sound and graphic to come up with an overall score. That works with FPSers but not so much with stategy games. You have to kinda balance them out when you are reading them.

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	31-05-2002 12:52									#18
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oh, yes, but since there's nothing to indicate that Moo3 won't actually be produced, we don't really care about the general public as long as we grognads get our due. And IG isn't pulling the plug.

Still, the more they sell the more patches there will be.