22-05-2002 03:41									#1
	Moo3 for Mac first?! Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Head's up, everyone. On the official Infogrames E3 page there say that Moo3 is to be released for the Mac in oct-02. No word 'bout the PC.

Has Infogrames commited yet another info blunder or are they serious?

Link:
http://www.us.infogrames.com/e3/index.php

	22-05-2002 03:45									#2
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another of what you said

	22-05-2002 03:52									#3
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They also have a few new downloadable screenshots. Seems much like what was posted here a couple of hour ago.

	22-05-2002 19:52									#4
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Gonegold still has 9/25 for the PC.

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	23-05-2002 07:47									#5
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It looks to me like they will both be released simultaneously, according to Inforgrames' site, as it states "PC CD-ROM MAC". I could be wrong tough.

	23-05-2002 17:45									#6
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quote: Originally posted by picotrain It looks to me like they will both be released simultaneously, according to Inforgrames' site, as it states "PC CD-ROM MAC". I could be wrong tough.

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	23-05-2002 17:52									#7
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Having both a Mac and a PC, I'd be delighted if it was all on one CD. Not that it matters - I'm well positioned to grab it whatever format it comes out on first!

(And just because I'm overconfident, they'll release it for the PS2, or something...)

	24-05-2002 15:56									#8
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They may very well choose to release it simultaneously for the Mac and PC ... perhaps even in the same box, like moomin said, which would be neat.

Blizzard are doing a simultaneous Mac/PC worldwide release for Warcraft III ... or so they claimed when I read that info a few weeks back.

	24-05-2002 18:06									#9
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From a business and logistics point of view, you cannot beat releasing both in the same box.

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	24-05-2002 18:17									#10
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quote: Originally posted by RPMisCOOL From a business and logistics point of view, you cannot beat releasing both in the same box. R:PM

Considering Infogrames is publishing the PC version, and MacSoft the Mac version, I doubt this'll happen for MOO3.

	24-05-2002 18:56									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Xentax Considering Infogrames is publishing the PC version, and MacSoft the Mac version, I doubt this'll happen for MOO3.

It would certainly require unhead-of coordination!

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quote: Originally posted by Xentax Considering Infogrames is publishing the PC version, and MacSoft the Mac version, I doubt this'll happen for MOO3.

I'm sorry I was going of a previous post that made it seem that infro was doing it all.

Does infro not have mac publishing capability?
Or did QS decide that two pubs are better than one (thats bar hopping on the corporate level)!

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	24-05-2002 22:42									#13
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quote: Originally posted by RPMisCOOL I'm sorry I was going of a previous post that made it seem that infro was doing it all. Does infro not have mac publishing capability? Or did QS decide that two pubs are better than one (thats bar hopping on the corporate level)! R:PM

I honestly don't know whose decision it was to publish on the Mac with MacSoft -- that decision may have been made when Hasbro was doing the PC version, before Infogrames acquired Hasbro (if I'm recalling the course of events correctly, anyway).

Regardless, that's the way it currently stands to the best of my knowledge. And I'd agree with the previous post that a box put out by two publishers together would be a _very_ unlikely thing. I'm pretty sure a 2-CD set could suffice technically for a distribution that had both the PC and Mac versions, however.

	24-05-2002 22:53									#14
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Xentax,

Sorry, if you don't mind me asking...where are you getting the publishing info?

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	24-05-2002 23:39									#15
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quote: I honestly don't know whose decision it was to publish on the Mac with MacSoft

perhaps cause infogrames owns macsoft

btw, infogrames bought macsoft before buying hasbo interactive. also macsoft had done all the civ2/mac games...

	25-05-2002 04:16									#16
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: I honestly don't know whose decision it was to publish on the Mac with MacSoft perhaps cause infogrames owns macsoft btw, infogrames bought macsoft before buying hasbo interactive. also macsoft had done all the civ2/mac games...

Then I guess there's some hope that the unheard-of coordination might actually happen!

Well, I can dream, can't I?

	28-05-2002 19:39									#17
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Hmm,

If I owned both companies like infro(Yeah right), I'd do everything that I could to put both versions in the same box. The cost savings are monumental.

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	29-05-2002 02:42									#18
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Then again, you lose out on selling two copies to people who have both PC and Mac. I bought Moo2 for both platforms, since I had friends on both I wanted to play with...

	29-05-2002 14:23									#19
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The cost savings would most probably outweigh the added revenue of people buying for both platforms.

	29-05-2002 15:08									#20
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On the balance, I'd say you're right. The Mac is such a small market.

	29-05-2002 20:10									#21
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quote: Originally posted by RPMisCOOL Xentax, Sorry, if you don't mind me asking...where are you getting the publishing info? R:PM

Well, I'd heard it from Cory Nelson before. But, I didn't realize until I saw Mark's reply that MacSoft was a division of Infogrames. Go figure.

Anyway, this page pretty much gets the point across -- http://www.wizworks.com/macsoft/?pa...er_of_orion_iii

I'd guess they're doing 2 boxes, and that's that it's easier for them to do so because of the packaging issues for a Mac application vs. a Windows one. I doubt either publishing group has experience creating a cross-platform distribution, and that it's therefore more trouble to try and do something different than it is to do 2 things they've done before.

You're certainly not going to convince a marketing-type person that it's cheaper to ship a Mac CD and a PC CD to everyone that wants one or the other, even though it's possible that that's the case if that results in only one box, manual (but 2 installation guides), etc.

	29-05-2002 23:17									#22
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Sorry but something about this disclaimer on the bottom of the MACsoft web page struck me as funny. Windows???


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	29-06-2002 01:52									#23
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I'm with Moomin in hoping for a dual release. If they ship both versions on one disk (like WCIII) I can play it on my work laptop as well as my home Mac. Combine that with 'Poly and my self-destructive quest to never be able to get any work done no matter where I am will be complete!

	29-06-2002 03:12									#24
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You shouldn't be playing on your work laptop. My brother-in-law says that if he doesn't make partner this year, he will blame it on Civ.

	29-06-2002 04:24									#25
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I've got at least two more years before I'm up for partner - so there is plenty of time for me to slack yet.

	29-06-2002 08:25									#26
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LOL...ok. Glad to hear that. You're probably more disciplined than he is. (told me that he was dying in a client meeting cause he stayed up in the hotel room playing civ...)

	01-07-2002 21:54									#27
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PC build will be released first, Mac shortly after. VERY shortly after. Development is happening simultaneously, so there should not be any significant delay.