22-05-2002 07:26									#1
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Digging up on the net, you can find some really nice things...

	22-05-2002 09:17									#2
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Interesting shots. what's up with the mixing of languages, and what is that language? I like the "Opressometer", nice name. Unfortunately for me, I haven't been paying much attention to the game, so I don't know exactly what those screens mean

	22-05-2002 12:53									#3
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It's Latin, although it ain't.

In fact it _is_ Latin, but nonsense in Latin. It's an old typographic placehoder text used when you want to see how the text looks but don't have the proper text to feed into your layout yet.

Means Moo3 is noway near done yet.

	22-05-2002 12:54									#4
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Jump-lane financial support seems to be in. Interesting.

	22-05-2002 12:56									#5
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quote: Originally posted by moominparatrooper It's Latin, although it ain't. In fact it _is_ Latin, but nonsense in Latin. It's an old typographic placehoder text used when you want to see how the text looks but don't have the proper text to feed into your layout yet. Means Moo3 is noway near done yet.

I thought it looked like latin, but its been years since I studied it in highschool.

When is Moo3 supposed to be out?

	22-05-2002 12:57									#6
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I don't see macromanagement tools for espionage. In fact, spies seem to have as much place as leaders under the personel tab. Let's hope we don't need to hand hold each and every spy through training and missions - but it sure looks that way looking at the shot.

	22-05-2002 13:12									#7
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That is a lot of placeholders...

	22-05-2002 13:22									#8
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel When is Moo3 supposed to be out?

Judging by those shots, the right answer is probably later.

	22-05-2002 13:32									#9
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	22-05-2002 13:36									#10
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i love this one under victory conditions

quote: Sole Survivor - other civilizations on the map: 165

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	22-05-2002 13:50									#11
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Yeah, that's quite funny. Gotta be a placeholder of some sort. I would have thought it was some kind of victory points, but there's a separate entry for that.

	22-05-2002 19:49									#12
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Kinda scary folks. Looks like screen designs with no code attached.

The screens are cool though

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	23-05-2002 17:54									#13
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They are, but if these shots are any indication, they still have a long way to go. Makes you wonder how well tested that October release will be.

	27-05-2002 12:05									#14
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Check out the leader in the upper right corner of the Leaders pic:

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	27-05-2002 15:54									#15
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Heh! They'd better fix that palceholder, or LucasFilms will sue their pants off.

	29-05-2002 05:05									#16
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Nice shots, but this is mostly a refined work of already known engines. Still a good shaping for let's say....a november release.

	29-05-2002 10:43									#17
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Yeah, pc.ign.com said that the tentative release date was somewhere in fall 2002. But it looks like they may make that deadline hopefully.

	30-05-2002 02:39									#18
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quote: Originally posted by moominparatrooper It's Latin, although it ain't. In fact it _is_ Latin, but nonsense in Latin. It's an old typographic placehoder text used when you want to see how the text looks but don't have the proper text to feed into your layout yet. Means Moo3 is noway near done yet.

You're right and wrong on this one. Yes, the text is Latin placeholder. However, many of those screens are not technically screenshots. They are the UI designer's guides for the programmers. It isn't her responsibility to find every bit of correct text and place it into the UI guide. Hence, the screens may not have all the proper text in them -- just stylized placeholder text to show the programmers what everything's supposed to look like.

Infogrames releases these as screenshots and they really are not. They are not grabbed from in-game play. They are photoshop documents from the artist meant for internal use.

So, trying to assume the status of MOO3's completion based upon seeing these layouts is probably not the best thing to do.

	30-05-2002 02:42									#19
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So far, the user interface looks A+, good presentation and easy to use. I'm still hopefull for MOO3 to be the best strategy game of all time.

	31-05-2002 22:56									#20
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quote: So, trying to assume the status of MOO3's completion based upon seeing these layouts is probably not the best thing to do.

I'd like to chime in my agreement here. There's no telling how long ago these screens were grabbed -- 2 weeks or more before E3 would be a perfectly valid guess, for example, but even earlier wouldn't be unreasonable, either.

And as you said, they're layout demonstrators for the UI programmers, not screenshots from within the game itself. So how far along the game engine is, in terms of integrating with the revised UI, is not a question you can answer based on these screenshots (or any others, for that matter).

Personally, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a fall '02 release -- meaning Octoberish. The landmark I'm still waiting for is beta testing; IMHO, they can't get this thing out the door right with anything less than 3 months of beta testing, and since beta testing hasn't started yet, my "hopeful" side says it's still 3+ months away until MOO3 goes gold. If that testing doesn't start until September, we'll be looking at either a Christmas++ release or a poor/rushed one a la Civ3.

Remember, all that is just IMHO; I'm roughly as in the dark as anyone else who doesn't work for QSI or Infogrames at this point.

	31-05-2002 22:58									#21
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Xen, yes, but you hang a lot over at Delphi, don't ya? Surely there are better rumors than that over there?

	31-05-2002 23:04									#22
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quote: Originally posted by moominparatrooper Xen, yes, but you hang a lot over at Delphi, don't ya? Surely there are better rumors than that over there?

Not really -- there hasn't been any official information released lately that hasn't been echoed over here, that I can think of at least.

Game-related rumors ought to kick up any day now, I'd think, what with E3 having just come and gone; and/or some more official information now that E3 is behind them.

I wish there was more to say; the official forum could certainly benefit from something more "on-topic" to talk about

	31-05-2002 23:07									#23
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Well, we appreciate you being here and sharing. Most of us can't really be bothered to check out the chaos that is Delphi. If something juicy comes up, you'll be sure to tell, right?

	01-06-2002 03:04									#24
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Since the Delphi board is going byebye (IG has moved things to their corporate boards), it doesn't really matter much now whether anyone wants to navigate Delphi or not.

	01-06-2002 06:04									#25
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quote: Originally posted by moominparatrooper Well, we appreciate you being here and sharing. Most of us can't really be bothered to check out the chaos that is Delphi. If something juicy comes up, you'll be sure to tell, right?

As Stormhound said, the official forums are now on IG's website, not Delphi, but your point remains the same.

I don't visit this forum quite "every day", more like every other day or so; but if any official information hasn't made it over here by the time I check, I'll be sure to post it. I see no reason to leave people in the dark just because they prefer this forum over the official ones, since both seem to have their merits.

	01-06-2002 14:37									#26
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Xentax, thank you! I appreciate the level-headedness and calmness of your response, btw. I don't really understand how you could ever stand Delphi

	02-06-2002 01:04									#27
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quote: Originally posted by moominparatrooper I don't really understand how you could ever stand Delphi

Yeah, you can find everything publicly said about MoO3 in there, but the ways to find a particular info are...overwhelming to say the least.

	02-06-2002 17:55									#28
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The Delphi boards were so chaotic.

Anyone who usually hangs here checked out the new official boards yet?

	02-06-2002 22:13									#29
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quote: Originally posted by moominparatrooper The Delphi boards were so chaotic. Anyone who usually hangs here checked out the new official boards yet?

The new forums are still in the "moving in" phase, if you will, as far as I can tell. I suspect they'll be as "lively" as ever once everyone's settled in.

The overall feeling seems to be strongly positive though -- not much to complain about except the color scheme. If others haven't noticed, they're running the same forum engine that these fine forums are, so anyone who's here who wants to check out the "new" official forum should feel right at home.

As to how I stay level-headed, well -- between 2+ years at a phone helpdesk and just a general track record of "staying cool under fire", it's gotten pretty hard to get me riled up. It comes in handy.

	03-07-2002 03:59									#30
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quote: Originally posted by moominparatrooper It's Latin, although it ain't. In fact it _is_ Latin, but nonsense in Latin. It's an old typographic placehoder text used when you want to see how the text looks but don't have the proper text to feed into your layout yet. Means Moo3 is noway near done yet.

Weird Latin. Some of the words aren't even in Latin and the grammar is kind of funny too. I wonder where they got it from...