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Capt Dizle
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Personally, I am experimenting with a felt tip pen. Which track on my Civ3 do I blacken to disable culture?
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Locus
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New York, NY
Jan 2001
time: 00:19
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You're right, it is pretty ridiculous. Now when I play, I use this tactic against the AI. In a recent game, there were 6 civs remaining. Everyone was at peace. The Aztecs declared war on me even though I had mechanized infantry and he just got cavalry. I even had battleships to his ironclads. He still declared war because I wouldn't give him some tech. (There are tons of threads about the stupidity of the AI in not taking into account the quality of your military so I will spare you.) The next turn, for a pittance, I was able to get everyone else into a military alliance against the Aztecs. Totally unrealistic, but it is a game. It would have been better to have Social Engineering like in SMAC, but alas, I won't digress into that either because it's been discussed in other threads. You're not alone, though, this kind of behavior ruins the game for me, too. I keep coming to the boards, though, to see if someone has discovered some miracle solution to make the game more fun but that hasn't happened. I hope it does. Don't get me wrong, the game had got some great elements, I just expected more after a masterpiece like SMAC/X.
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Capt Dizle
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got a marketing call from someone hawking credit cards...guy said I have been preselected to recieve some gold platinum silverized credit card..I asked upon what criteria i was preselected?...guy said it must be my good credit...I said, well, I am in bankruptcy so how could my credit be good...he replied well, must have had credit cards in the past..I said, yeah, I ran up huge debts on them all, if you want to send me another one I'll be glad to do the same to yours..the guy asked to confirm my address..
Hey Momma! We got another card coming! Call Rent-Center...
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Andrew Cory
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SF bay Area
Jan 2002
time: 21:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Whoha
the ai is a cheap whore, you have to contact the ai before another ai does, offer them your world map or something, it should be enough to make him attack his much larger neighbor who will proceed to run him over. |
This can backfire on you, though. I once had the strongest nation in the world (egypt) declare war on me (I forget why, but these things happen) So, I got alliances with all the other (much smaller) nations near egypt, figuring I could do 20 turns standing on my head, wait it out and decare peace. It wasn't like I was even neigboring with Egypt at the time...
I sent out a token force against Egypt, somthing to keep my aliance partners happy with my contribution. The Iroquois asked me to go to war with Rome, and I figured "what the hell?" This would give me a chance to expand a bit, and even share a boarder with Egypt. So at this point I had a nice 3 corner war going on...
I look up about 7 turns later, and what to my wondering eyes should apear? Egypt has taken over most of the territory of the various nations it was at war with; the ones I _bribed_ into war with them! There happened to be a mid-continental sea (think great lakes), so I built a few troop-transports to bring musketmen accross and attack and take newly conquored territory. This stemmed the tide of Egyptian conquest (they were streched fairly thin), and I was able to take much of their new teritory, giving me a nice chunk of land. Egypt and I took most of the Roman Territory between us, finaly meeting with me having most of the coast, and Egypt having most of the grasslands away from the coast. The net result was that Egypt gained more land then they lost, and wouldn't have been able to had I not asked everyone else to declare war on them...
Of course, the results for _me_ were that I nearly doubled my territory, and that + my culture allowed me to overtake Egypt as #1 power and score...
The second war with egypt went _much_ better. That nation ended up on the ash heap of history, much like Rome becoming the vatican...
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Coracle
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quote:
Originally posted by jimmytrick
Personally, I am experimenting with a felt tip pen. Which track on my Civ3 do I blacken to disable culture? |
Man, IF ONLY. Culture Flipping is such a braindead crock.
As for AI alliances, it is the Human against the World - and that is NOT realistic, it is just a fantasy of Soren Johnson.
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Coracle
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quote:
Originally posted by Whoha
the ai is a cheap whore, you have to contact the ai before another ai does, offer them your world map or something, it should be enough to make him attack his much larger neighbor who will proceed to run him over. |
In otherwords, the Civ 3 AI has no sense of the strategic, is just a bean-counter, and does not even consider the human element of trust built up over centuries.
As such it sucks, and is worse than the Civ 2 AI.
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22-05-2002 17:53
That's when the game just looses all credibility of a "civilization simulation" for me and becomes Age of Empires (a great game in its own right, but a whole different paradigm -I was hoping). Maybe some of you more experienced players can help me with ways to make and keep allies. Other than that I really love the game. I just wish it was a little more realistic in terms of the way nations react to each other.
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