15-05-2001 07:14									#1
	keeping it civil Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

I'm new to the forums as a poster, but I've been visiting as a guest for several months now. I justed wanted to comment on the civility of the forums.

I've noticed a couple of times people shooting other people's ideas down without giving reasons as to why. Besides just being rude, this doesn't contribute anything intelligent to the discussion.

Please give your reasons so that collectively we can come up with better solutions than we could individually. We've already seen some ideas influence Firaxis, and these have usually been joint works. Yes to constructive criticism. No to insults.

Also, if you don't think something is relevant, you can ignore it or just not read it. You don't have to trash it as stupid. It may be relevant to someone else. That's the beauty of this, you only have to respond to what you're interested in.

Thanks!

	15-05-2001 08:27									#2
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

This site is infinitely more civil than certain others i have visited. Basically, it's the most civilised site i've ever seen! After all, it is a 'civilisation' site, so it *should* be civil

[This message has been edited by Lung (edited May 14, 2001).]

	15-05-2001 11:05									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

We also have "Trolls", which are basically self-appointed jesters whose purpose is to deflate people who appear to be too certain of themselves.

I assume you may be referring to Alexander's Horse. He's the Troll King. Or Troll Emperor, by post count.

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Lack of knowledge begins with the phrase: I don't care.

	15-05-2001 13:59									#4
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

This is indeed the most civil site I've ever visited.

	15-05-2001 17:47									#5
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Sometimes ideas are rejected because, if you stay here long enough, you can see the same concept resurrected so many times you lose any netiquette.

Some people jump in and don't read anywhere (not to the FAQ, not to The List, not to Relevant Threads...). I bet also MarkG and DanQ forget old proposal or miss some thread, but it's difficult to forgive someone emerging from nowhere shouting: I have the GREATEST idea of every time for Civ: add horde of grasshopper devastating crop fields until you discover a DDT legion unit able to spray them to death. Or something like that.

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Admiral Naismith AKA mcostant

	15-05-2001 18:58									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Damn you Naismith, you posted my DDT-warrior idea before I could. Bastard!!

As long as you stay out of the OT, these forums are pretty sedate, though topics can sometimes get repetitive and that can get annoying when for the 5 time in a month someone comes in and starts a new post asking for "more diplomacy options" something real vague and never even read the previews that say that this is already being put into the game.

Along those lines let me be a repetitive schmuck for a second

BRING BACK ELVIS IN CIV3 !! Sorry, couldn't resist, that post is almost becoming a knee-jerk kinda thing for me

	15-05-2001 23:43									#7
	Tired of ads?

A vote for ELVIS

Dennis

	15-05-2001 23:47									#8
	Got spare money?

The King shall live again!!

	16-05-2001 00:25									#9
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Uh-huh-huh. Thang-yuh ver' much

	16-05-2001 09:38									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Looking at it again, I have to agree - this is one of the best forums out there. I guess some of the time people say things that are inside jokes that I don't get, so to me it looks insulting. Live and learn I guess.

I can see how frustrating it can be to have the same issues raised over and over again. I've read the "great library" stuff, but I think for some new people, the site isn't that easy to navigate. Posting a link usually helps a lot.

for instance, I'm not great at navigating this site, I've pretty much stuck to the most recent civ3 posts. The FAQ I get, but what is 'relevant threads'? also, is there a way to get better results from the search engine?

Thanks!

	16-05-2001 10:07									#13
	Put an end to popups!

Coming in here, telling us we're uncivil. Like some kind of punk.

I'll see you in hell,

Gary