24-05-2002 00:15									#61
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Osweld: I still think that you and che are being oversensetive on this issue, especially given the fact that he has been honored by the American Jewish Committee.

	24-05-2002 00:17									#62
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Possibly. At first I thought Watto was just a general Eastern Mediterranian stereotype. Could be Greek, Turkish, Arabic, Jewish, Italian. With the changes to him in the second movie, though, there is no doubt.

Oswald, that is freakish.

	24-05-2002 00:17									#63
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Osweld:

	24-05-2002 00:17									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer Whoah. Okay, I really wasn't seeing it before, but now... yikes. Wasn't Watto being targeted by Arab groups as an anti-Arab stereotype after TPM?

Arabs are semites. But do they have different shaped noses?

	24-05-2002 00:18									#65
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No.

	24-05-2002 00:19									#66
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They are not semites? Or the noses are different...or they are same? Or it's not a great thread?

	24-05-2002 00:20									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer Wasn't Watto being targeted by Arab groups as an anti-Arab stereotype after TPM?

Watto has been called Turkish, Arabic, Middle Eastern, even French and Italian.

	24-05-2002 00:21									#68
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He has also been called Shylock from "The Merchant of Venice."

	24-05-2002 00:23									#69
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See, that's why I thought it was silly before, but seeing those two pictures together... that's more than a little unsettling, you must admit.

I still think the Trade Federation = Asians thing is crap. One of them might sound like the lowest-quality Asian stereotyped accent, but the other one just sounds like he has a mouth full of cotton balls.

Have you checked your PMs, DD?

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quote: Originally posted by GP They are not semites? Or the noses are different...or they are same? Or it's not a great thread?

Take Israelis and Arabs take off any head coverings. Drop them in a bag. Shake it up. Empty bag. How do you tell them apart?

	24-05-2002 00:26									#71
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The guy winning the fight is Israeli.

	24-05-2002 00:26									#72
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quote: He has also been called Shylock from "The Merchant of Venice."

btw, Shylock is , AFAIK , a known jewish negative stereotype.

	24-05-2002 00:27									#73
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I just checked them, Guy. Thanks for the heads up.

	24-05-2002 00:31									#74
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Take Israelis and Arabs take off any head coverings. Drop them in a bag. Shake it up. Empty bag. How do you tell them apart?

Umm...the Jews will kick the Arabs' asses!


Anyhow, do you think that Watto is anti-Jew, anti-Arab, or anti-both? I guess there is a negative stereotype of merchants from the Levant wether Jew or Arab.

	24-05-2002 00:32									#75
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Nobody has yet responded to my Jar Jar is a black gay guy guess. I mean...sorta like that espresso guy in Beverly Hills Cop...

	24-05-2002 00:33									#76
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http://www.freepress.org/Backup/Uni...re/phantom.html

Here's a article about this issue.

	24-05-2002 00:34									#77
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chris and GP are you jewish or what the ****????!!!!!!

	24-05-2002 00:34									#78
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just joking of course

	24-05-2002 00:36									#79
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you're just amercan soldiers

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 chris and GP are you jewish or what the ****????!!!!!!

I just have a big "trunk".

	24-05-2002 00:49									#81
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Take Israelis and Arabs take off any head coverings. Drop them in a bag. Shake it up. Empty bag. How do you tell them apart?

What if I shake a naked Greek and Ottoman together in a bag?

	24-05-2002 00:52									#83
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you have a dirty ming

	24-05-2002 00:56									#84
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Besides, there have been accusations of Rascism in Star Wars since day one.

From Chasing Amy:

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HOLDEN (calling out): Bulls--t! Lando Calrissian was a black man, and he got to fly the Millennium Falcon!
(Hooper whips his head around, looking for the source of the comment)
HOOPER: Who said that?!?
HOLDEN (standing): I did! Lando Calrissian is a positive black role model in the realm of Science Fiction/Fantasy.
HOOPER: F--k Lando Calrissian! Uncle Tom n----r! Always some white boy gotta invoke the holy trilogy! Bust this - those movies are about how the white man keeps the brother man down - even in a galaxy far, far away. Check this **** . You got cracker farm-boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy - blond hair, blue eyes. And then you've got Darth Vader: the blackest brother in the galaxy. Nubian God.
BANKY: What's a Nubian?
HOOPER: Shut the f--k up! Now Vader, he's a spiritual brother, with the force and all that s--t. Then this cracker Skywalker gets his hands on a light-saber, and the boy decides he's gonna run the f--king universe - gets a whole Klan of whites together, and they're gonna bust up Vader's 'hood- the Death Star. Now what the f--k do you call that!
BANKY: Intergalactic Civil War!
HOOPER: Gentrification. They're gonna drive our the black element, to make the galaxy quote, unquote "safe" for white folks.
HOLDEN: But Vader turns, out to be Luke's father. And in Jedi, they become friends.
HOOPER: Don't make me bust a cap in your ass, yo! Jedi's the most insulting installment, because Vader's beautiful, black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty white man! They're trying to tell us that deep inside, we all want to be white!
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	24-05-2002 00:57									#85
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I thought you were leaving forever...because of my evil racism...

	24-05-2002 00:58									#86
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Disturbing, but I think the issue is over-exaggerated.

	24-05-2002 01:00									#87
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i was fed up but no because of you

	24-05-2002 01:02									#88
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Lonestar. Chasing Amy had some truely great moments.

-Arrian

	24-05-2002 01:04									#89
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paiktis, were you hitting the friend's scotch again? Anyhow, I still need to get you thosen Greek journalist articles about the USN.

	24-05-2002 01:07									#90
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 i was fed up but no because of you

It's better if I'm the source of all evil. Then things can calm down when I go on "vacation". MarkG says that he has to brace himself for a troll every time he sees my name next to a thread...