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delsolsi is offline delsolsi
Chieftain
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May 2002
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  Old Post 24-05-2002 04:28
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I've been playing Civ3 and reading these forums for a few days now and one term that keeps comming up that I have no idea what it means is pop rushing to build city improvements or military. Could some one please explain this to me. Thanks.

Catt is offline Catt
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May 2002
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  Old Post 24-05-2002 04:35
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You can "hurry" city improvements (buildings & units) and build them in 1 turn. Under Democracy, Republic and Monarchy, you do so by paying gold from your treasury (paying citizen overtime). Under Communism and Despotism, you do it at a cost to your city's population (citizens worked to death and/or emigration from such a heartless ruler!).

"Pop rushing" (or population-based rushing) usually refers to rushing improvements / units early in the game while in despotism (resulting in losing population), often to quickly build a sizeable military force in order to quickly subjugate your neighboring civilizations.

Catt

delsolsi is offline delsolsi
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May 2002
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Thanks, I've done that in democracy with money, seems like a good way to spend extra cash. I may try it in depotism in my next game if I get a city who's population growes quickly.

grapedog is offline grapedog
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The Doghouse
Nov 2001
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Can the PC pop rush as well, or will it? I'm just curious as I don't think I've seen that discussed ever before? I wonder if that could be programmed into it? That would make a nice addition to it's strategy...of course that would probably nullify a lot of players strategies for staying alive in the early game at later difficulties.

Ethelred is offline Ethelred
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Mar 2002
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Don't overdue the pop rushing. It causes unhappiness for 20 turns. The AI does use it and even sometimes abuse it if they are going to lose a city. That and drafting can lead to cities that are worthless from unhappiness for a long time.

Playa del Carmen is offline Playa del Carmen
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Texas- never you mind where
Dec 2001
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Don't overdue the pop rushing. It causes unhappiness for 20 turns.


The main reason I stayed away from pop rushing was this.

Capt Dizle is offline Capt Dizle
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Sep 1999
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

As of 1.17f, not only could the AI pop rush, it did so to the extreme in communism. I wonder was it fixed in 1.21?

Sir Ralph is offline Sir Ralph
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Dec 2001
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The unhappiness was toned down from 40 turns to 20 turns in 1.21f. Wether the AI has been tweaked not to rush/draft so much or not, I don't know. At least neither me nor (as far as I read) anyone else has seen the typical AI selfdestruction under Communism since 1.21f.

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