26-05-2002 21:21									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Mikhail I could really care less about what scenarios firaxis includes. Fan-made ones are invariably better. Any world map they make will probably be poor when compared to Marla or KittenofChaos's (kitten's is better, btw. accurate resource placement) Besides. I'd say 80% of everyone will buy the Expansion first and foremost for the civs. If I really cared about multiplayer, I wouldn't be a civ fan.

hi ,

ahem , the ones you talke about are far from perfect , ........
in order for the fans to create them now , they would have to stop on the development , ......

so its better for now that they put them in , .....

but who knows , what has the future coming for us , ........


have a nice day

	26-05-2002 22:53									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus A chess mod?

Yup. Got like bugger all publicity, the name I have by it is Kris Maes, (edit: Maestro on the forums). He didn't upload it anywhere I think, but made it available by email. Basically, you get a king (a super-diplomat) but if he dies, you lose. Simple.
I can't find the thread in question, but I found a hint to it in a thread about the GameOver function...

quote: About regicide and capture the flag: if Firaxis would give the fans a scripting language, they could add that themselves...

Stop teasing. We don't need to add it, they made it for us.

Mummy, can you feed me now, I can't do it on my own...

	27-05-2002 06:18									#33
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Well, it seems like the "Usual Supsects" are back and all they can do is complain! Truly, they are beginning to sound like broken records, because it's just the same complaints repeated over and over again! No wonder they get to King and Emporer.
I must say that the Firaxis guys show a great amount of restraint by not simply telling this small bunch of VERY vocal whiners where to get off!
Yes, they probably should have released Civ3 WITH MP, and possibly even with a robust editor! But if any of you were listening, you'd realise that this was not a Firaxis decision, but an Infogrames marketing decision (i.e: we want the game out BEFORE Christmas!)
Be thankful that the Firaxis team are so responsive to our concerns that they have put out THREE patches in the space of only a few months!
So guys, unless you have something constructive to say, best you NOT say anything at all!!

Yours,
The_Aussie_Lurker.

P.S: Just my $0.02c worth, sorry to clutter up this otherwise excellent thread!

	27-05-2002 07:13									#34
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quote: Originally posted by The_Aussie_Lurker Well, it seems like the "Usual Supsects" are back and all they can do is complain! Truly, they are beginning to sound like broken records, because it's just the same complaints repeated over and over again! No wonder they get to King and Emporer. I must say that the Firaxis guys show a great amount of restraint by not simply telling this small bunch of VERY vocal whiners where to get off! Yes, they probably should have released Civ3 WITH MP, and possibly even with a robust editor! But if any of you were listening, you'd realise that this was not a Firaxis decision, but an Infogrames marketing decision (i.e: we want the game out BEFORE Christmas!) Be thankful that the Firaxis team are so responsive to our concerns that they have put out THREE patches in the space of only a few months! So guys, unless you have something constructive to say, best you NOT say anything at all!! Yours, The_Aussie_Lurker. P.S: Just my $0.02c worth, sorry to clutter up this otherwise excellent thread!

hi ,

dont worry , one of the founder's of firaxis , Sid , has a new idea , ...all the negative person's get a look only edition , the others a full version , .........

most people are frustrated with the way the local infogrames people , in every country they are different , and unfortunatly sometimes they are sub-contracted , ........
however since a lot of people started to write complaints , they start to fix them now , infogrames that is , since some stock-holders wanted aswers , they really started to do something about it , ............
some people complain because of a real problem , one's the problem is fixed they are happy , ......
others complain because they have nothing else to do , .....
as far as we are concerned , firaxis should get a 100 on a 100 , ...why , well , they have created a huge revolution , not only in the way games are build , the AI and numerous other examples , its a given fact that what Sid did ones again is a landslide in the industry , .........

as for the rest , .....Jeff , care to comment , .........

have a nice day , oh yeah , think positive

	27-05-2002 15:23									#35
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That's all good, I feel satisfied. Not that the new MP modes seem too exciting to mee now, I'd prefer to keep the "standard" MP experience, but what the.... maybe I'll like them. Also, as the PBEM Admin, I am very happy to see that the passwords are there . Hope they make it tough to cheat, unlike CtP.

In some three weeks or so we'll probably have a huge update pack - I want to add some stuff.

Great job guys!

	28-05-2002 21:34									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Solver That's all good, I feel satisfied. Not that the new MP modes seem too exciting to mee now, I'd prefer to keep the "standard" MP experience, but what the.... maybe I'll like them.

The main idea is that some people won't enjoy the single player experience in multiplayer (a la 16+ hour games), primarily because organizing multiple play sessions with people you don't personally know is almost impossible. The short game modes, especially in conjunction with accelerated start scenarios, will allow players to finish games in an hour or two. LAN gamers have been OK with previous MP modes, since they're playing with family or co-workers or such. Internet gaming however is mostly between strangers, who may not have a grip on what's involved in a 4000bc to space race victory game. We wanted to provide options for both types of players.

Jeff

	29-05-2002 03:33									#37
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Your thinking is sound. 4x games have been waiting for this sort of thing for a long time. We all hope you succeed in delivering it.

	29-05-2002 10:09									#38
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With some of these ideas (play a game in a lunch hour) it sounds like they're trying to beat Rise of Nations to the punch.

	29-05-2002 18:14									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS The main idea is that some people won't enjoy the single player experience in multiplayer (a la 16+ hour games), primarily because organizing multiple play sessions with people you don't personally know is almost impossible. The short game modes, especially in conjunction with accelerated start scenarios, will allow players to finish games in an hour or two. LAN gamers have been OK with previous MP modes, since they're playing with family or co-workers or such. Internet gaming however is mostly between strangers, who may not have a grip on what's involved in a 4000bc to space race victory game. We wanted to provide options for both types of players. Jeff

hi ,

would that become part of the editor , ..........

there are people who would love to play for day's , hence some for weeks , .....
please put more years in it , ........and one should have the option to set years , lets say , between 1800 and 2050 Ad , every turn should count as a year , ...........

have a nice day , and thanks in advance

the beer is cold , .........

	31-05-2002 08:53									#40
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When our those stupid idiots at Faraxeis going to give us a igloo tech, so we can build cities in tundra

And those jerks took away cheat mode I loved elimating the other civs in 4000bc Now thats kicking cat

pullution sucks and i had to pay for this game everything should be free!!!! you horrible people should work for twinkies and have to barter for other aminites like at Grateful Dead concerts.

I hope you fill your goldfish bowl up with too much water so your pet goldfish will jump out and committ suicide



I have paid almost nothing for this game. $/hours this is one of the best values in the entire entertainment industry.

	31-05-2002 12:21									#41
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quote: Originally posted by JtheJackal They gives us what we want and people still complain. Tsk Tsk.

What we want? Ha! They are far from it!

	08-06-2002 15:37									#42
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It is obviously impossible for Firaxis to make Civ what we want as a quick scan through these forums will show that there are a multitude of conflicting ideas. Builders, warmongers, history fanatics, chronociders.

If you want to know why there are so many whiners on this forum look back at the Civ 3 wishlist. People put a lot of personal time into this game and a huge amount of thought. This game to a lot of people is a bit like a sports team. You will still go to the game after the star player has gone to another side and every week is another defeat, but what you don't do is sit quietly in the stand. You make your disappointment known and hope things will turnaround.

Civ 3 is good now that all the bugs are fixed (unfortunately an industry trait rather than a Firaxis ploy). It looks like they plan to make some radical gameplay changes in the expansion which I hope everyone is looking forward to, because the real issue with Civ 3 is the thought " Well this is good but if only I could do this......". As I said it's not possible for everyone to be pleased by the new features, and I certainly won't be preordering it, but let's just see what they produce and then cheer or jeer.

Last edited by Mikel on 08-06-2002 at 16:03