17-05-2001 01:04									#1
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According to GameSpot:

"If a border city of the opposing culture has very few cultural points, theres a strong chance that it will be assimilated into the dominant culture as the game progresses, eliminating the need for a military force to move in and conquer it."

Wow, I didn't realize this is how culture worked. That's pretty innovative.

Can you win by culture alone?

	17-05-2001 03:44									#3
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It's just an enhancement of the «The people of Sparta admire the prosperity of...».

Still the culture points system is quite revolutionary. It makes sense. It will make for a great game too

	17-05-2001 07:02									#4
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Is this for a a) border city that has few culture points, or a b) border city of a civilization that has few culture points? If (a) then wouldn't building any city in the mid- to late-game near an enemy be difficult? I used to build a city close to my next invasion point during Civ2 so that I could unload transports quicker before attacking.

	17-05-2001 07:10									#5
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I was under the impression that culture is a Civ-wide feature, not individual cities, was the preview saying as it is or am I reading into the wording too much? If it was individual cities, as a builder, why build cities in the mid- to end-game at all?

	17-05-2001 07:50									#7
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i sense culture as being somewhat like it was in civ 1 only with real "parameters" and not randomness.....

ie citizens in York admire the prosperity of Boston.... you guyz remember this right ?

There wasn't culture in civ1 but the above statement as infrequent and random as it was did happen from time to time and this seems like an improvement on that system to me

	17-05-2001 07:59									#8
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Do you think we might get a diplomatic message like:

"Your culture is infringing on our culture. Please remove your culture from our borders immediately!"

	17-05-2001 08:04									#9
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...No!

	17-05-2001 16:58									#11
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If a city wants to join your empire due to your awesome culture, it should be optional to accept it or not, maybe you do not want it because it is behind your defensive lines, or you do not want problems with the owner of the revolters.

	17-05-2001 19:11									#12
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Imagine you and your allied civ are neighbours. What happends if you have a much higher culture rating than your life-long ally, and therefore consume some of his cities?! I can't imagine him getting very happy after you doing that.

	17-05-2001 19:23									#13
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Probably you won't be able to gain cities by culture from your allies. That would make for a good reason to ally with your more culturally powerful neighbors.

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Quote: "Probably you won't be able to gain cities by culture from your allies. That would make for a good reason to ally with your more culturally powerful neighbors."

I agree, but still it should be up to the higher culture to accept or not the city into its Empire.It will sound strange that a "culturally superior" can not deny "membership" of its Empire. Nowadays it would be seen as a "Casus Belli" that a country accepts as part of it a region from other state. USA will not see with good eyes that the People from Oregon decides to leave the USA and join Canada because they admire the Canadian culture, and that Canada accepts them.

	17-05-2001 20:45									#15
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We can look at a real example in the United States in terms of cultural interaction and effects.

In the southwestern states, Mexican immigrants, (legal and illegal) are flowing steadily in from (surprise - Mexico). This area used to belong to Mexico, and now we see that demographics are ignoring the conquests that were made in 1848.

So, even though the United States conquered this area from Mexico, today, we have Mexican immigrants who have almost reclaimed it as part of Mexico today.

Wonder if this phenomenon of culture and demographics will be implemented effectively in Civilization III?

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	18-05-2001 09:13									#16
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It looks like culture eating will be affected by bot specific cities and by civ-level stuff... they do mention that certain improvement improve the culture rating of your city and thus your border...

	18-05-2001 00:47									#18
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I do wish though, that Firaxis would have considered some simple way to represent the immigration aspect of culture.

But it looks like they're doing a great job with the other aspects of culture.

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	18-05-2001 01:14									#19
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Yeah, there was a debate about immigration if I remember correctly. No hints that it is included as of yet.

Now that I think about it maybe Happiness of the people DOES enhance culture levels. It makes sense when it is about cities changing sides. (who would want to live somewhere that they play classical music and read heavy philosophy all day long if there was nothing to eat )