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MORON
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Vancouver, Canada
Jun 2001
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WARS > TREK
FACT
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TCO
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Richmond, VA
Jan 1970
time: 00:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Lonestar
Hate to rain on your parade...But IIRC, Roddenberry was a bomber crewman in the war. |
oops. Well I read somewhere that one of the creators had a Navyu background which led to the use of Naval ranks, etc. on the space vessels.
Found this on the internet:
I have always liked Star Trek. I watched the original show in the 60's, waited eagerly for the first movie in the 70's, and then later in the 80's got hooked all over again on Star Trek: The Next Generation. It has been good television, good science fiction, and occasionally even good film. Some things, nevertheless, have driven me crazy: (1) Picard and Riker both giving commands, in tandem, on the bridge is absurd. One person has the conn or has the deck on a ship, and it is dangerous to have any confusion about that (see quote above). As Executive Officer, Riker wouldn't even be on the bridge in ordinary circumstances. (2) There doesn't seem to be anything like a regular watch on the bridge. In one show a big point is made that only a full commander can have bridge command, but nothing is more common on the show than to have scenes where all the senior officers of the ship are in some conference or other, leaving who knows who directing the ship on the bridge--unless there are full commanders who aren't part of the regular cast. The writers don't seem to know what naval lieutenants are for--to be the officers of the deck. And (3) Star Trek has never known what admirals are for. The first Star Trek movie has a farcical conflict over whether Admiral Kirk or the newly assigned captain will assume command of the Enterprise. One wonders what Horatio Nelson and Captain Hardy were both doing on the HMS Victory. Later, Star Trek: The Next Generation refers to the Enterprise as the "flag ship" of Star Fleet, without apparently realizing that a flag ship is a ship with a "flag," i.e. a flag officer, an admiral. A Star Trek admiral seems to be some kind of shore officer.
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H Tower
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quote:
Originally posted by MORON
WARS > TREK
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your name's actually correct.
Go Star TREK!
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SuperSneak
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In the land of the one-eyed
Jun 2000
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I think we're comparing apples and oranges folks.
Star Wars is space mythology, while Trek is serial drama with comedic elements.
It would be like comparing Red Dwarf and Dr. Who, two excellent but very different types of Sci-fi shows.
I think Trek was an awesome example of character development, in all its incarnations. Some of the stories were weak, some good, some really strong. But through it all, the characters were interesting and grew with the show.
Star Wars is much more akin to a universal tale of loss, discovery and redemption that, unfortunately, succumbed to its own colossal weight and expectation (much like a couple of the poorer Trek films) but is still a great and sweeping saga that needs to be judged as a unique whole when it concludes.
Both have really created a groundswell for fantasy and imagination, and should be esteemed for that.
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Sprayber
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Dixie
Oct 2000
time: 23:19
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Originally posted by SuperSneak
I think we're comparing apples and oranges folks.
Star Wars is space mythology, while Trek is serial drama with comedic elements.
It would be like comparing Red Dwarf and Dr. Who, two excellent but very different types of Sci-fi shows.
I think Trek was an awesome example of character development, in all its incarnations. Some of the stories were weak, some good, some really strong. But through it all, the characters were interesting and grew with the show.
Star Wars is much more akin to a universal tale of loss, discovery and redemption that, unfortunately, succumbed to its own colossal weight and expectation (much like a couple of the poorer Trek films) but is still a great and sweeping saga that needs to be judged as a unique whole when it concludes.
Both have really created a groundswell for fantasy and imagination, and should be esteemed for that. |
Your right, but to me the people in control of Trek seems to be jamming it down our throats. They can't imagine a year without a Trek series going on and IMO it's killing the frachise. The pump out anything with the Trek logo on it and do so with the knowledege that fans will just accept it without comment. Unfortunaltey Lucus seems to have taken a cue from them 
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