03-11-2000 03:00									#1
	how many of you have gotten all the wonders? Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

I just found this site and i didn't know there were that many civ2 regulars out there. I just want to know how i rank among the rest. I got all the wonders the other day without cheating. Who's in the club?

	03-11-2000 03:49									#2
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Welcome. You've discovered a mob of Civ addicts here.

In the early days, playing against the AI, for the challenge, I used to build all the Wonders. As time went by, I built fewer and fewer. Now, if I play SP against the AI, which isn't often, I don't build them at all for the challenge of winning without them.

In MP, against humans, on Deity, I think the Happy Wonders are nice, but you can survive without them. The military wonders - Sun Tzu and Great Wall - are very handy in an aggressive game. If it looks like my civ has been started on an isolated piece of land surrounded by water, I'll always try for Lighthouse, on the basis that I can use it for exploration and trade, and if the others don't have it, they can't reach me for quite a while.

If you play MP, you'll find any number of games being set up and advertised in the MP forum. You might also find yourself spending an inordinate amount of time at this site!

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	03-11-2000 07:14									#3
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If I really want them all... I can get them all.
But as Finbar points out, who needs them all

If you have the MPE version, check out the Multi-Play forums... and look for a game. After playing against the stupid AI, real people will be a treat

	03-11-2000 10:58									#4
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After playing SP for a while, getting all the Wonders is no big deal. In addition to the suggestions about MP there is also OCC which is my passion at the moment. If you haven't come across this, the basics are at Paul's site: http://members.home.nl/paulvdb/occ.htm

	03-11-2000 12:35									#5
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Civsmart, et al.:

Sure, I've gotten all the Wonders — usually by the 1800s, when my massive, planet-spanning armies have conquered entire nations and turned others into shattered ghosts of their former selves.

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	03-11-2000 18:25									#6
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I have built all the wonders on occaision, playing at chieftain. it was interesting, but hardly a rush, since the other civs were so pathetic....

	03-11-2000 19:32									#7
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I have built them all, but I don’t think building them all is that easy (missing one of the early ones is hard to avoid). Capturing them all is of course not any sort of achievement.

	04-11-2000 10:19									#8
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i agree with johnmcd, sometimes you miss one of the early ones, but i have done it before. You need a quick start to do IMO, otherwise i usually miss the lighthouse or the observatory

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	03-11-2000 23:10									#9
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i once managed to build them all, without cheating, on Prince. That was really lucky, and it involved two start settlers and two advanced tribes before 2500 BC.
I think.

	05-11-2000 10:57									#10
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Well, i have the wussy habit of never using my military to cripple. i use military to contain. And without takeover, and without quickstart, at deity, i am usually hard pressed to get enough wonders started at the beginning. i guess there's a lot better players out there.

	09-11-2000 13:49									#11
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I did that once -- I built all the wonders in a single city. It's the only time I've seen the City View actually look like a city!

	11-11-2000 12:05									#13
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Mark-Did that with the new diplomacy/gigaworld map, playing as the Japanese...it was fun, sitting there, occupying only the main islands, with one warrior per city my only defenses...not even talking to the ai, while I played on in blissful, caravan-drugged joy...

...last time was a landing, fully loaded, of a full spaceship on AC around 1800. But I'll improve

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	12-11-2000 04:04									#14
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welcome civsmart!
Check out the Civ III idea forums, they are a great start.

-The only time I ever got all the wonders was when I conquered every civ in the WWII scenario as the Axis.