29-05-2002 22:58									#1
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What is your opinion on America and Egypt? What should be done with them?

	29-05-2002 23:05									#2
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kill them all! its just that we don't have the forces to do so yet.

	29-05-2002 23:08									#3
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Well on the maps of 1640 Thebes is without citywalls. If we have some extra troops around we might try a landing at the coast and test its defences. If we take Thebes, the rest of egypt can be taken without much effort for the rest of our civilization imho.

	29-05-2002 23:13									#4
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Destroy all of Egypt and Thebes and the rest of the American Cities except their Capital City and then negotiate peace with the Americans and establish trade with them.

	29-05-2002 23:18									#5
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I hope the Supreme Military Commander drops in and takes a look at this

	29-05-2002 23:26									#6
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Well, it doesn't show up clearly on the map, but Thebes is walled.

	29-05-2002 23:50									#7
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No need to wipe them out per se , but we should make it a point to sieze the Wonders that are rightfully ours , and extract minor technologies (eg Bridge Building) that we can't otherwise be troubled with.

If this modest plan results in the total assimilation of these cultures into mainstream Apolytonia, then I guess it was just meant to be.

	30-05-2002 00:04									#8
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MrWIA should get started on a plan for conquering America and Egypt ASAP or at least plan on starting an invasion.
hit 'em hard and fast, that's my suggestion


(hehee now I get to play the little old man who complains about lack of action )

	30-05-2002 00:05									#9
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Kill them asap

	30-05-2002 01:00									#10
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The dialectic pronounces the inevitability of our triumph in conquering the reactionary lands and freeing their peasants and workers from the mystification of their capitalist exploiters so that they may join our Worker's Paradise.

	30-05-2002 07:15									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us I hope the Supreme Military Commander drops in and takes a look at this

In a few days, I wash my hands of this! Really, our current holdings are secure, my successor should have an easy time preparing any further incursions into foreign soil. Now if we had ironclads to avoid those pesky city walls...

	30-05-2002 07:31									#12
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Kill the Americans first.
The Egyptians have a better color

	30-05-2002 11:59									#13
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War! I say we land cheap troops who set fire to their countryside, pillaging as they go till the infrastructure is ruined for both countries. Our shock troops then retreat to the hills, where they periodically swoop down to check down on the starving cities. Thereby they pose no threat whatsoever till we have the Ironclads the Marquis so desires.

	30-05-2002 14:26									#14
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While it seems like a good idea to land some troops so that they can not mass troops and take the war to us it seems like a bad idea to pillage. The ironclads are not far away in the future and those mines and irrigations could be good for us in the future.

	30-05-2002 17:47									#15
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Pillaging doesn't damage an AI city, the AI just cheats more to make up for it. On the other hand, all that irrigation and road has to be rebuilt by us because we have to play by the rules.

	30-05-2002 18:22									#16
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DEATH TO HUMANITY *cough* OUR ENEMIES!!

	30-05-2002 18:33									#17
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Not to mention that those lousy capitalist pigs have enough money to buy their needs. As usual at the expence of the exploited workingclass!

	30-05-2002 22:18									#18
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The two civs are in war with us. We have to finish the begun job !
(a french proverb says : When the wine is drawn, it should be drunk )
About Egypt, I proposed in another link that :
"For the following, as main cities are walled, let us not waste our brilliant units in front attacks.
As communist, bribing is not a bad thing if it is for a good goal !
The aim may be to conquer Egyptian Capital, by sabotage of the walls with diplomats, then attacking by crusaders and, after conquest, bribing their poor remaining cities. "
More : catching Thebes gives us Marco Polo's.
Perhaps, as the Bear in the Cave noticed, we may let a poor lonesome city of each civ, to avoid restarting new civ anywhere.

For Americans, the known cities are walled : we need more forces, with high attack power, at least ironclads for costal cities, then riflemen (by Leo's) and even cavalry if tech progress is speedy (remember : with railroad, we'll have two advances if we build Darwin's !)

	30-05-2002 23:23									#19
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In that case, we need to sue for peace with America, and concentrate units on Egypt. We have a beachhead there, and moving all units from the American front would go faster.

	31-05-2002 03:30									#20
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"Sue for peace"! This is the MGE AI we're talking about, not EU2!

	31-05-2002 05:41									#21
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or just fortify some musketeers on good terrain inbetween or countries, let the AI ram their heads agaisnt a brick wall

	31-05-2002 06:12									#22
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The AI is already ramming it's head into a brick wall - they haven't surrendered yet, have they?

	31-05-2002 08:05									#23
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As long as the Americans and Egyptians keep sending out individual units, I'm willing to keep wiping them out. We are getting stronger faster than they are.

	31-05-2002 09:03									#24
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker The AI is already ramming it's head into a brick wall - they haven't surrendered yet, have they?

because we haven't paid too much attention to them yet. just wait until ironclads

	31-05-2002 17:51									#25
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower or just fortify some musketeers on good terrain inbetween or countries, let the AI ram their heads agaisnt a brick wall

Agree -- Fortifying strong defenders (at least two = no bribe threat) close to enemy civs encourages them to weaken themselves by sending hari-kiri attack units out to their death (instead of fortifying their city defenses).

	31-05-2002 21:52									#26
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I suggest we move this discussion onto the Official Military Debate thread started by MrWIA, so our commets will recieve more attention

	01-06-2002 01:31									#27
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Yeah, I wish I could find some Mountains to fortify Musketeers on!

	01-06-2002 01:37									#28
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What a great president always smiling.... but you're also always wearing sunglasses... are you hiding something

	01-06-2002 01:51									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us What a great president always smiling.... but you're also always wearing sunglasses... are you hiding something

"Smile, it makes people wonder what you're up to".

The sunglasses are so I can go out in public without be mobbed by adoring crowds. It seems to work very well.

	01-06-2002 01:56									#30
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you're online but your little ligtbulb says your gone.... another tactic to avoid your swarming masses of fans?