16-05-2001 04:55									#1
	Stacked combat will be pointless if the ai can't use it Support Apolyton

I really hope the Ai knows how to use stacked combat because if it doesn't, single player games are going to be very one sided. It will be like Call to Power I and II where Ai civs can't stack units or hardly ever do and as a result are virtually ineffective in warfare. That would be very bad.

I raise this issue because we already have 2 versions of civ and the Ai hasn't yet learned how to put planes on a carrier or missiles on a submarine.



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	16-05-2001 05:01									#3
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We must play some time Paiktis

The Horse force looks forward to it

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	16-05-2001 05:13									#4
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Name the time and place you crazy Horse

I'm polishing my nukes while waiting for you reply

	16-05-2001 06:27									#5
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neigh...

	16-05-2001 07:01									#6
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Oh its a pissing competition is it? Okay.

First off, I usually deal with my opponents well before nukes come into play

So, Paiktis, what's your preference? A slow lingering death or a massive knock out blow? Let me know - the Horse Empire aims to please



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	16-05-2001 07:12									#8
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I'd say I pissed 3 meters away...

	16-05-2001 09:28									#9
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Anybody want to address the topic of this thread


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	16-05-2001 09:35									#10
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I'm just glad you put your sig in. I forgot to bookmark your *snicker* WEBPAGE and haven't been able to find it since.

	16-05-2001 17:39									#11
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In CTP II, The AI had no problem building stacks. And what was in the stacks was sometimes even the right combo. The AI's problem in CTP II was it's meekness. There is a FRENZY MOD available that makes them considerably more aggressive. (So much so that they sometimes forget to defend) So it is possible to program.

On the Carrier Issue that AH brings up, that is different. The whole stack never attacks at once. The program looks at options for each unit differently so the resulting attacks usually are far from coordinated.
Once a stack is built, the stack can now be treated as a single entity for the programming side. With the very aggressive AI in the Gold version, stacking will change the game dramatically.

RAH
Well I tried to bring it back on topic

	16-05-2001 23:50									#13
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I can't believe it

The Horse remained silent???

Are you ok AH?

	17-05-2001 08:06									#14
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People are going to start to think you are weird if you keep ranting at people who aren't online Paiktis.

RAH I haven't seen an ai civ use stacks yet in CTP II. Must play some more.




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	17-05-2001 08:12									#16
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BTW, it took you an awufl lot time to come up with an answer AH! we getting rusty?!

	17-05-2001 10:14									#17
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Actually I dashed that response off in seconds after coming online here


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	17-05-2001 11:28									#18
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Okay, to the point of the thread:

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 05-15-2001 07:55 PM I really hope the Ai knows how to use stacked combat because if it doesn't...[t]hat would be very bad.

Thanks for that spark of pure genius. The obvious never escapes you, does it?

	17-05-2001 17:56									#19
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I'm not one of your employees.


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	17-05-2001 19:33									#20
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The same arguement could be given for not having a complex tech tree, or wonders, or anything else. If the AI can't cope then the game is bad. It isn't exactly difficult to send all your spare units to the city nearest the threat then combine them into useful armies before marching into enemy territory.

	18-05-2001 14:01									#21
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I wouldn't trust my employees near a keyboard without pictures on each key.

	18-05-2001 20:14									#23
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This thread is pointless, since soon, AlexanderHorse's republic will be overthrown in a barrage of paintballs.



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	19-05-2001 08:24									#24
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I take it that the silence means that everyone is taking up arms!

(double checking ammo supply)

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	20-05-2001 07:31									#26
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Sorry Theben - that riposte scores 2 out of 10


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	20-05-2001 07:48									#27
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every nuke launched at my brainless ai ally is one that wasnt launched at me

	20-05-2001 11:02									#28
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AH should be sentenced to tree planting in the Outback.

	21-05-2001 04:40									#30
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Can we get back on topic? If the ai can't use stacked combat properly then the game will be ruined, at least in single player mode. It will just be too easy to wipe out ai civs. Civ I and II give no confidence that they will get it right.


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