01-06-2002 19:05									#1
	Superpower Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I remember this game being discussed here awhile back. I finally saw the game for sale recently and the concept intrigued me. I just wanted to ask if it was worth buying.

	01-06-2002 19:51									#2
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

i don't know if this version is worth buying, but you could buy it just to support the production of SP2.
There are still some bugs, but the creators are working with the fans on their forum to fix this. Personally i'm waiting for SP2...or maybe i'll buy SP1 if they get all the big bugs out, and the AI is as good as it claims to be.
Right now half the people get WW3 within one year gametime, that just doesn't seem fun to the builder inside of me

	01-06-2002 23:35									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Actually I have the game. I enjoy it...but SP2 will be huge and a big success I predict. With Mplayer and a better logistics/demographics. Its definately somthing to look forward too!

	02-06-2002 10:03									#4
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

For what its' worth, Superpower has gotten terrible reviews, and if they are to believed, the game is a real lost oportunity.

	02-06-2002 17:54									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

It was a good idea but terrible execution and horribly buggy.

	02-06-2002 21:08									#6
	Got spare money?

Don't buy it.

You'll regret it

	02-06-2002 23:40									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Assur Don't buy it. You'll regret it

I know I did.

	03-06-2002 07:23									#8
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Hopefully by the time it gets down in price to $5 or $10 the patches will make it halfway decent.

	05-06-2002 10:52									#9
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I would hold off buying it.

There are much better games that have already been released, or are about to be released. . .

	05-06-2002 18:15									#10
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What game would you recommend getting instead, Leonidas?

	05-06-2002 18:24									#11
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There's a demo available you can download just to get the feel of it.

Last edited by The Rusty Gamer on 06-06-2002 at 04:52

	05-06-2002 19:20									#12
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I'll sell you my copy for $10.

	07-06-2002 02:59									#13
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc What game would you recommend getting instead, Leonidas?

I don't know what your preferences are, or what games you already have, buy I would recommend the following:

Past Releases:

Most of these games are very inexpensive right now.

1) EU2 - patch 1.05 was just released. Paradox is really tweaking the game and the AI. No other game like it.

2) Shogun Total War: Warlords Edition - this is the final release and includes all the patches and expansion pack

3) Panzer General 2 - from 1998, but is still going strong. There are a ton of new maps, campaigns, icons, equipment files for the game. Excellent wargame. . .

4) Sierra's city building games, in particular Zeus and Caesar III


Current Releases


1) Matrix's Uncommon Valor: War in the Pacific


Future Considerations:

1) Hearts of Iron - (grand WWII strategy game). Done by the same people who brought you EU2.

2) Crusader Kings - Time of the Crusades and beyond. Done by the folks who did EU2.

3) Matrix's HUGE War in the Pacific - coming out this fall.

4) Pax Romana - Grand Roman Empire game


These are just a few suggestions. Hope this helps

	07-06-2002 03:04									#14
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Where can I find some info on Hearts of Iron, Crusader Kings, and Pax Romana?

Matrix games look to be geared more to the hardcore grognard rather than taking the neophyte into consideration. So, I can not really take them into consideration.

	07-06-2002 03:57									#15
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Hearts of Iron, Crusader Kings: www.europa-universalis.com (check the forums) These games are going to be awesome!

Pax Romana: www.antikgames.com

	07-06-2002 06:32									#16
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Where can I find some info on Hearts of Iron, Crusader Kings, and Pax Romana? Matrix games look to be geared more to the hardcore grognard rather than taking the neophyte into consideration. So, I can not really take them into consideration.

Yes, Matrix's games are quite complex. Which is too bad really. It's nothing that a better game design and manual wouldn't fix. . .

But I would highly recommend HoI, Crusader Kings and Pax Romana. These games are due out this fall. They look very promising. . .

The BIG strategy game is back. . .

	07-06-2002 07:43									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I've never played EU. What can I expect from either HoI or Crusader Kings?

	07-06-2002 22:46									#18
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I've never played EU. What can I expect from either HoI or Crusader Kings?

I don't know what your preferences are, but I would check out the forums that discuss those games.

In particular, if you don't own EU, and if you like BIG strategy games, then I would highly recommend buying EU2. It has a map that covers the entire world, and you can play as one of 180 countries between 1419 and 1820! The game has been released for some time and can be purchased relatively inexpensively. I picked up my copy for only $29.95 (Canadian). It has a great deal of depth. . .