15-05-2001 09:27									#31
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Check out the bluish samurai-looking unit in THIS SCREENSHOT. Can we conclude that the Japanese are in?
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	15-05-2001 04:42									#32
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Thank you SilverDragon

So, so far we know that:

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN
AZTECS ARE IN
EGYPTIANS ARE IN
INDIANS ARE IN

12 confirmed - 4 to go. (16 civs will be included in CIV 3)

JAPANESE (open for debate plz see the samurai(?) unit at http://viewer.fgnonline.com/fgn_media.jsp?media=http%3A%2F%2Fwww .fgnonline.com%2Fmedia%2Fpc%2Fnews%2Funits.jpg

INDIAN TRIBE IS IN(possibly Iroquois or maybe Sioux - see the thread for hints)

MONGOLS (open for debate, see leader in civ iii page of Apolyton)



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	15-05-2001 06:35									#35
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So do all these leader faces mean that we're losing the ability of the civs to be governed by people of either sex?

	15-05-2001 07:59									#36
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Mark my words.... I bet that all the classic CivI civs will be in.

	15-05-2001 08:08									#37
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Yeah the twelve civs so far were all in CIV1. So I bet The Mongols and the Babylonians are in too. Plus the one native american tribe... only one to guess about
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	15-05-2001 08:24									#38
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I'll put my money on the Babylonians being in. Surely just one civ from the birthplace of civilisation would be an injustice to the history of civilisation!!

	15-05-2001 20:21									#40
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Personally if the Celts don't get in I think it is a crime, considering we go back further than the Romans. I would like to see us Welsh get in but sadly I think they've already got enough programming to do.

I'm sure the: Celts and Spanish will get in

and i'm pretty sure that is a picture of a Mongol (Genghis Kahn perhaps)

Some official words would be nice

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	15-05-2001 23:46									#41
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The Mongols are in... check the Genghis Khan screenshot at GameSpot.

	16-05-2001 01:27									#42
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I was 100% sure I needed some input though.
So, I agree with you guys it is the Mongol leader.

So, so far we know that:

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN
AZTECS ARE IN
EGYPTIANS ARE IN
INDIANS ARE IN
MONGOLS ARE IN
INDIAN TRIBE IS IN(possibly Iroquois or maybe Sioux - see the thread for hints)

14 confirmed - 2 to go. (16 civs will be included in CIV 3)


JAPANESE (open for debate plz see the samurai(?) unit at http://viewer.fgnonline.com/fgn_media.jsp?media=http%3A%2F%2Fwww .fgnonline.com%2Fmedia%2Fpc%2Fnews%2Funits.jpg

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VIKINGS (?) (see the boat at the abovementioned ULR. Ralf is pretty sure it's a long boat. After seeing it, I think it could be a trireme as well)



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	16-05-2001 01:36									#43
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	16-05-2001 01:53									#45
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[quote]Originally posted by paiktis22 on 05-15-2001 04:36 PM
A lot of people have said that all classic CIV I civs are in. I see this too and I agree to the proposition that this means that the Babylonians are in.
We still need hard evidence to include them in though.

Lenious, as things turn out I am very sceptical about the Celts and the Spanish. But still we have to find evidence (if there is any yet) to discover about the 2 remaining civs. I have no hard evidence for this but I'd bet my last drachma (much more subtler pronounced actually: thrahmee - th as in then) Babylonians are in.

We also need to find out which exactly the Indian tribe is.

	16-05-2001 18:23									#47
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Thank you Serapis.

We had the Pharaoh leader. Now we have this. In Civ 3 we will have all these nice big egyptian cities for the taking

	16-05-2001 18:32									#48
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Where was the pharoah screenshot? Don't remember seeing that one

	16-05-2001 18:53									#49
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It was in a computer gaming world review. There was a huge thread discussing the identities of the leaders that were on this article untill we were all sure which one was which. Later I'll try to find the URL and post it.

Serapis, the 14 confirmed civs of Civ 3 are 100% confirmed. No assumptions.
It is certain that these 14 civs will be in because we have clear cut undisputable evidence.

	17-05-2001 09:50									#50
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BTW, considering that minor civs need to trade and have diplomacy with big nations and that their leaders will have pictures, quite many of "confirmed" civs might actually be minor civs. I'm mainly thinking of undefined "Native American" civ.

	16-05-2001 22:28									#51
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Don't you think that minor and major civs will alternate between games?
Also the civs will be 16. Do the minor civs will be extra?

(I don't know, I'm asking)

	16-05-2001 22:32									#52
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I think that minor civs won't be given the extra effort of leader screenshots that major civs would have. How different can you make the various Germanic barbarian civs (likely minor civ candidates) that toppled the Romans.

For that reason I think the Native American leader screen shown is a major civ. Besides, since its first mention, we really haven't heard any talk of minor civs from Firaxis or magazine previews. Not even side comments

	16-05-2001 22:34									#53
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When and where were those minor civs actually mentioned by Firaxis?
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	16-05-2001 22:35									#54
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Do minor civs exist?

	17-05-2001 00:05									#56
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Serapis, unfortunately I can't find the URL with the civ leaders. maybe SilverDragon remembers?

Or can Dan or Mark help us out on this? (I searched Apolyton but didn;t find it)

	17-05-2001 01:33									#57
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Since the 7 civ limit hasn't been confirmed I was wondering, has the total of 16 to chose from really been confirmed by any Firaxian?
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	17-05-2001 02:00									#58
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Check this: http://www.gamespot.co.uk/stories/p...2086175,00.html

	17-05-2001 02:04									#59
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So, so far we know that:

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN
AZTECS ARE IN
EGYPTIANS ARE IN
INDIANS ARE IN
MONGOLS ARE IN
INDIAN TRIBE IS IN(possibly Iroquois or maybe Sioux - see the thread for hints)

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JAPANESE (open for debate plz see the samurai(?) unit at http://viewer.fgnonline.com/fgn_med...ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww .fgnonline.com%2Fmedia%2Fpc%2Fnews%2Funits.jpg

VIKINGS (?) (see the boat at the abovementioned ULR. Viking longboat?)

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Note: Gamespot say that Civ 3 will have 16 civs.

BUT, Firaxis Programmer Mike Breitkreutz said on this forum that «Firaxis has made no official announcement concerning the number of civs that may or may not be in the game».

I take this at face value: No official announcement about the number of civs you can SELECT FROM - AND - no official statement about how many civs will simultanously playing in the game.

So I removed the line on my previous post that said "16 civs will be included in Civ 3"


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	17-05-2001 04:20									#60
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The Vikings better be in because they WERE the best seafarers is medivial Europe