03-06-2002 16:18									#1
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Foreign ministers report on the Indians

The Indians have 6 cities with their capital Delhi and they are building king richards crusade in Madras. They are a republic with 1053 gold in the treasury.

They have 2 techs that we do not have, bridge building and Medicine and are researching Feudalism.

They are at peace with the romans, Babylonians ans ourselves with no contact with other civs.

They have 1 wonder of the world, the oricle of Delhi

I recommend we try to stay at peace with the indians while we finish off the egyptians and americans but be prepared in case of sneak attack on New Castellon (we are well defended already)

	03-06-2002 22:41									#2
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being some what new to the game, i don't really know where india is. could you maybe post a screen shot for us? please?

	03-06-2002 23:22									#3
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You can see a lot of the World in the thread "Our 1640AD Map". There has been very little change, so it may be sufficient. I've bumped it up to the first page.

	03-06-2002 23:29									#4
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I vote for the 3rd option... um no the second one.... wait no the 3rd yes the 3rd.

aren't 2 and 3 basically the same, knowing that in Civ the AI always breaks their treaties ? (is that how to spell treaties?)

	04-06-2002 03:07									#5
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I agree with Hydey on this one, better focus on Egypt and Americans for now

	05-06-2002 01:41									#6
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India isn't a threat to us. We'll have to conquer them eventually, but that should wait until after the Egyptians, Americans, and Carthaginians. Attacking before we kill those three will just drain our resources.

	05-06-2002 16:05									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us ... knowing that in Civ the AI always breaks their treaties ? (is that how to spell treaties?)

si vis pacem, para bellum !

	05-06-2002 16:07									#8
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something about screwing peace?

	06-06-2002 01:55									#9
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The third option is actually more the responibility of the SMC. It is different from the second option because it implies attacking India as soon as possible, as opposed to waiting for other conquests.

	07-06-2002 02:29									#10
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quote: Originally posted by JCP si vis pacem, para bellum !

quote: something about screwing peace?

--> If you want peace, prepare for war!
This is why you have to love those Romans

Shade

	07-06-2002 03:26									#11
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Let us make a desert and call it peace.

	07-06-2002 03:28									#12
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Same as the more modern "The best defense is a good offense".

	07-06-2002 07:56									#13
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or, "the best offense is a good defense." In this game offense , but in general I prefer defense.

Anyone noticed that in civ3, depending on whether you want to disband an offensive unit or defensive, the military advisor is perfetctly willing to use either argument ?

	07-06-2002 12:41									#14
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if the best offense is a good defense, and the best defense is a good offense, what happens if you offensive is great but your defensive sucks, or your defensive is great but your offensive sucks?

	07-06-2002 17:27									#15
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CONTRADICTION!

	07-06-2002 18:28									#16
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* Reading the above for the third time

	07-06-2002 18:31									#17
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If your offense is great, your defense CANNOT suck beause teh best defense is a good offense. SImilarly, if your defense is great, so must be your offense because the best offense is a good defense

	07-06-2002 18:35									#18
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Offense...defense...tautology? Contradiction?

*snap!*

AAAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!


KILL! KILL!!! EXTERMINATE THE ENEMY! YOU WILL BE LIKE US. WE WILL SURVIVE. WE ARE THE MASTERS OF EARTH. WE ARE THE MASTERS OF EARTH.

WE ARE THE MASTERS OF EARTH!!!!

APOLYTON CONQUERS AND DESTROYS!APOLYTON CONQUERS AND DESTROYS!APOLYTON CONQUERS AND DESTROYS!

Minister of WAR, not peace.
MrWIA.

	07-06-2002 19:00									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us if the best offense is a good defense, and the best defense is a good offense, what happens if you offensive is great but your defensive sucks, or your defensive is great but your offensive sucks?

Then you're the Egyptians!

	08-06-2002 00:57									#20
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No, that's if both your offense and your defense suck.

	08-06-2002 02:27									#21
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The best offense is to have a defensive offense, so the offense can turn into a defence without straying from offensing. It is also good to have an offensive yet defensive although more offensive defense, to ensure your offensive defense is not too offensive but still quite defensive, in an offensive way. Similarily, the best defense is to have an offensive defense with an element of defensive offense, in which to ensure a mix of offensively defense and defensively offensive defenses, or even offenses.


Besides, offense and defense are spelt offence and defence. I think. (so many offensives and deffencives has confused me )

	08-06-2002 02:41									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Bear The best offense is to have a defensive offense, so the offense can turn into a defence without straying from offensing. It is also good to have an offensive yet defensive although more offensive defense, to ensure your offensive defense is not too offensive but still quite defensive, in an offensive way. Similarily, the best defense is to have an offensive defense with an element of defensive offense, in which to ensure a mix of offensively defense and defensively offensive defenses, or even offenses.

Clear as mud!

quote: Besides, offense and defense are spelt offence and defence. I think. (so many offensives and deffencives has confused me )

"Offence" is when you insult, or break a rule. "Offense" is the act of attack. Defence is not a word. In American English, anyway.

	08-06-2002 05:16									#23
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear "Offence" is when you insult, or break a rule. "Offense" is the act of attack. Defence is not a word. In American English, anyway.

looking in the Living Webster Encyclopedic Dictionary of the English Language.
defense (us) defence (brit) comes from the latin defensa. both are ok to use in this situation .

offense (us) offence (brit) both words mean the same.

This is finbars job to correct spelling and grammer , I am too stupid

	10-06-2002 22:00									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Bear The best offense is to have a defensive offense, so the offense can turn into a defence without straying from offensing. It is also good to have an offensive yet defensive although more offensive defense, to ensure your offensive defense is not too offensive but still quite defensive, in an offensive way. Similarily, the best defense is to have an offensive defense with an element of defensive offense, in which to ensure a mix of offensively defense and defensively offensive defenses, or even offenses.

All is in all, ...and reciprocally.

	10-06-2002 22:55									#25
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear ... Defence is not a word. In American English, anyway.

I believe it is a verb describing the act of removing a property's boundary designation.

	10-06-2002 23:53									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq I believe it is a verb describing the act of removing a property's boundary designation.

As yes, the deer leaping the property boundary designation: "Defeat go over defence before detail".

	11-06-2002 01:22									#27
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The saying has been confused and mixed up by so many people that nobody knows the real thing anymore.