06-06-2002 02:00									#1
	page tweak requests for Markos....(and Dan!) Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Mark, I spend an unGodly amount of time on these forums (that's another issue). But given that, I'd like to be able to navigate around smoothly. I'm also on a laptop computer. So I don't get full size page display. In general, this is not a problem, but in a few cases it is. However, if you make a couple changes (that won't hurt anybody else) the problems will be solved. BTW: I'm probably not the only laptop user here.

Specific things to fix:

-move the "forum jump button" about 1" to the left. (could justify it with the text from posters block above, instead of the reply block below. (As it is now, I have to shuttle back and forth with the horizontal scaler every time I want to switch from reading to forum jumping.) OR...just left justify it. I like the way it is left justified opn the private messages page...

-On the "reply to post page" move the whole text block 1" to the left.


I think this stuff was fine before...but gradually as you've made changes to the pages (adding smiley block, etc.) it's gotten to be a problem.

Last edited by TCO on 06-06-2002 at 02:11

	06-06-2002 03:37									#2
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whats your browser and screen resolution?

	06-06-2002 05:04									#3
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Well...I'm 36, I can't have the text be too tensy tiny.

I'm at 800 by 600, with "display large fonts" enabled under the"advanced tab"

Not sure about browser resolution. I'm using IE. And under the View/text size command, I have smallest toggled.

	06-06-2002 18:28									#4
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which style do you use?

after some tweaking in the code, on 800x600 with mozilla and lormal fonts i dont have a horizontal scroll bar

	06-06-2002 18:59									#5
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Thanks! Your tweaking fixed the problem I had which caused a horizontal scroll bar in IE on 800x600 (The too-far-right "Go (New)" button)

	06-06-2002 22:57									#6
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default style.

Markos...I'm on a laptop...

	07-06-2002 00:29									#7
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so, do you still have horizontall scrollbars on threads?

	07-06-2002 03:07									#8
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yes. No changes.

	07-06-2002 03:54									#9
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is it possible to post a screenshot?

	07-06-2002 04:05									#10
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sure...how? I know that I use the prtscrn thingie...but than what?

	07-06-2002 04:23									#11
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paste into an image editor (paintshop pro, imaging, etc) and save it as a jpg. then attach it here

	07-06-2002 04:26									#12
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I don't think I have any of those. Is there one that is common on MS windows or Office? I have PowerPoint. And Adobe acrobat reader

	07-06-2002 04:31									#13
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dont have office installed right now

you definately have paint(in the accessories submenu of the start menu), so paste it there, save it as a bmp, zip it up (you do have winzip, dont you? ) to reduce it's size and attach it

	07-06-2002 05:54									#14
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here you go.

let me now if I did all the techie stuff right.

Attachment: poly image.zip
This has been downloaded 4 time(s).

	07-06-2002 06:10									#15
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Oh, fyi. I'm ok when I'm looking at the overall forum. Just when I look at a specific thread that I have a problem...

	07-06-2002 11:33									#16
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aargh
that's good but the problem is most probably caused at the top

so one more favor: can you take a screenshot of the top of the thread?

	07-06-2002 11:44									#17
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ok...but notice how the forum jump box and reply box jut out to the right past the normal text above.

(Oh and is there a way to put 2 attachments in one post?)

Last edited by TCO on 07-06-2002 at 11:56

	07-06-2002 11:53									#18
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here you go

Attachment: top right.zip
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

	07-06-2002 11:55									#19
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and here

Attachment: top left.zip
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

	07-06-2002 12:28									#20
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good god!

are you sure you cant smaller fonts?

anyway, it might be the search bar, which i've made shorter

	07-06-2002 23:55									#21
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Mark,
I could try smaller fonts, but I seriously doubt it would work. Almost everybody gets presybopea as the get into their 40's. Even in your 30's most people can't used very small font. I know it sounds strange but its true. The fonts don't cause me any problem on the rest of the net. Also, please realize I'm on a laptop. So the screen is small. (When you look at the page views.)

No change in the scalers, mark. I think the problem is with the forum jump box and the quick reply box. They both seem justified to the right and stick out well past the thread text box. Take another look at the first screen I sent you. Seems like it would be easy to move them to the left and justify them with the edge of the thread text box.

	08-06-2002 00:05									#22
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If you just moved the forum jump box, that would be easy and take care of my biggest user issue. (Since I use it a lot.)

Of course tightening up the quick reply box also would fix the whole page.

Here is what it looks like. (Maybe this shows the problem better.)

Attachment: bottom left.zip
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

	08-06-2002 00:12									#23
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now?

	08-06-2002 01:12									#24
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no change...

Attachment: bottom right.zip
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).

	09-06-2002 22:34									#25
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Mark,

Am I abandoned?

Take another look at "bottom right". All of the poster comments fit the screen fine. And are on the left. It's the froum jump and the quick reply box which stick out to far. Must be hard coded wrong or something. If you just justify the right edge of them the same as the right edge of the poster comment box, the problem will be fixed. Won't hurt anyone else either.

	10-06-2002 08:55									#26
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GP,

What version of IE you using? I just got out IE and messed around with it and it all fit under 800x600 resolution. And no, labtop should not make a difference. So the only thing I can think of is that maybe it is because your using an old version of IE that is not supporting some code on the site. Unless Markos has some other idea,

	10-06-2002 20:50									#27
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Tniem, what sort of font do you have installed?

Regardless, I think the issue has to do with the coding for the poster text as opposed to the forum jump and quick reply boxes. The forum text is formatted so that it fits in my screen. The forum jump box and the quick repply box don't. I bet there is something about how they are coded that is different.

I have Windows XP, so I expect my IE is pretty new.

No other sites give me this issue. Just Poly. The pages here are rather complex and have evolved over time. I think there is some type of coding issue that gives me this problem.

Last edited by TCO on 10-06-2002 at 20:56

	10-06-2002 21:24									#28
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quote: No other sites give me this issue. Just Poly.

i'm not worthy! i'm not worthy! i'm the worst web designer in the world!!

* MarkG slaps himself around with a large trout


is that better master georgie?

	10-06-2002 21:49									#29
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Let me wield the trout. You're too gentle on yourself...

	11-06-2002 07:15									#30
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quote: Originally posted by GP Tniem, what sort of font do you have installed?

I have the standard XP fonts installed plus some. But I have the first choice for Apolyton which you should have on your computer - Verdana. IE is set to display Latin fonts.

quote: Regardless, I think the issue has to do with the coding for the poster text as opposed to the forum jump and quick reply boxes. The forum text is formatted so that it fits in my screen. The forum jump box and the quick repply box don't. I bet there is something about how they are coded that is different.

It is just weird because when I tried it it worked with IE, so I just don't know.

quote: I have Windows XP, so I expect my IE is pretty new.

Yeah, you have 6.0, which is what I used for the test.

quote: No other sites give me this issue. Just Poly. The pages here are rather complex and have evolved over time. I think there is some type of coding issue that gives me this problem.

Well that can't be true. There are other sites that are designed tobe viewed at 1024x768 and have to have a scroll bar at a lesser resolution just to be seen, you just don't visit them.


Two quick questions. Is IE maximized on your screen? If it is not then that could be a problem? Second, if you were to use smaller fonts just for a second does that stop the scroll problem? It logically would fix the problem but if it doesn't it might help Markos solve the problem.