07-06-2002 22:21									#1
	Adding New Resources? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

This has probably already been asked before, but I'm too lazy to go look at the moment.

So how can you go about adding new resources/goods/etc.? That mostly includes how to add the graphic where it will work, since using the hacked 1.21f editor is pretty easy to work with. I wanted to add "Sugar" and "Cotton" to provide the South and Caribbean with some value.

	08-06-2002 20:00									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

If you look in your Art folder, you'll see a file called resources.pcx, the icons are in that file. Make sure you get the one with the magenta background, there's another there called resource. pcx that just has some extra icons you can use. You can use pretty much any graphic program to paste new icons into it.

There's currently a limit to the number of unique resource icons you can have in a game. I believe it's now 36, though some people have managed to get as many as 82. That doesn't happen very often though, it's pretty much a fluke. You can still have more than 32, but you will have to share graphics for some of them. Anything above that number, and the icon is invisible on the map and the civilopedia.

Be careful with luxury resources, they can cause some problems in the game. First off, it looks like you can't have any more than 8 total. And switching with one of the defaults occasionaly can cause problems, though not always. Just test any changes before you get carried away. There's no limit that I can see for bonus or strategic, other than the 82 overall total.

	10-06-2002 00:10									#3
	No Go Oasis Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Well it appears I do not possess either the technical expertise, or the right program...to add resources. The only graphics programs I have to work with, can work with, are Paint and MS Photo Editor. I am trying to add a Desert Oasis resource. I can use Paint to paste the Civ2 Oasis icon into a new resources slot in the file. However, Paint cannot save .pcx. So --fine. I just saved it bmp without losing any color. Then I used photo editor to save the file as a .pcx. However, apparently photo editor pcx's are not viewable by the game. Suddenly all the icons show up as black square boxes. I did make sure the borders for none of the icons were messed with in any way. Pink is the background --fine.
No go.

The thing is ...I don't want to actually *change* any of the original resource graphics...or I would use some of the premade mods ...but I *like* the original icons...they work just right for me..I don't want them larger or whatever. I just wanted to add some more.




*sigh*

	10-06-2002 01:19									#4
	Re: No Go Oasis Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by green_athena The thing is ...I don't want to actually *change* any of the original resource graphics...or I would use some of the premade mods ...but I *like* the original icons...they work just right for me..I don't want them larger or whatever. I just wanted to add some more.

Your problem is the wrong program. It's actually quite an easy thing to do, if you have the right tools. Paint is good for nothing IMO. In fact any MS graphic program. My suggestion is Photoshop 7, though that's a very costly program. I'd suggest an *ahem* alternative approach, but I gather the moderators don't take kindly to that kind of advice.

At any rate, it's not your skill that's at fault, it's your tools.

	10-06-2002 01:30									#5
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Ahhh, beautiful, works fine. Thanks!
Now my only problem is that my cotton image looks like crud, but oh well.

	14-06-2002 04:30									#6
	Re: Adding New Resources? Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

quote: Originally posted by Trip This has probably already been asked before, but I'm too lazy to go look at the moment. So how can you go about adding new resources/goods/etc.? That mostly includes how to add the graphic where it will work, since using the hacked 1.21f editor is pretty easy to work with. I wanted to add "Sugar" and "Cotton" to provide the South and Caribbean with some value.

hi ,

there should be a whole lot more then just those two , ....

have a nice day

	15-06-2002 09:00									#7
	Suffering from ads?

True, but I'm just focusing upon things I'd like to see at the moment (and things I can produce half-acceptable graphics for ).

	16-06-2002 03:11									#8
	Suffering from ads?

quote: My suggestion is Photoshop 7, though that's a very costly program. -Willem

Some of us do not want to pay that much for Photoshop 7

quote: I'd suggest an *ahem* alternative approach, but I gather the moderators don't take kindly to that kind of advice. -Willem

Wouldint the alternative approch be using a Bmp to Pcx utillity to convert them. Just a thought
.

	16-06-2002 23:31									#9
	paint programs Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by Civfan01 Wouldint the alternative approch be using a Bmp to Pcx utillity to convert them. Just a thought .

Yea, except that's what I did originally but that doesn't seem to save the PCX in a format the game agrees with. Maybe it's saving it in a different pallet or something, when it saves ...I don't know.

In any case, I went to cnet and downloaded the trial verson of Paint Shop Pro 7, and have been using that. Works pretty well for this.

	17-06-2002 14:03									#10
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

quote: Originally posted by Trip True, but I'm just focusing upon things I'd like to see at the moment (and things I can produce half-acceptable graphics for ).

Just take a look at the excellent work done by Harlan. He not only improved the initial Firaxis work but also added some exciting new ones. Even if you want to do it by yourself I would suggest that Harlan is the man to give you some help.

all the best
carlos

	18-06-2002 00:40									#11
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

quote: Originally posted by Trip True, but I'm just focusing upon things I'd like to see at the moment (and things I can produce half-acceptable graphics for ).

hi ,

need any help , ....

"half-acceptable" , what you mean with that , ....

have a nice day

	26-06-2002 02:21									#12
	Remove this text

I use 37 resources (with 1 repeated graphic for offshore oil). All 36 images I cut and paste using MS Paint, as crappy as it is, and it works fine. I just cannot create new graphics that are worth a damn.

	26-06-2002 02:50									#13
	Get a bigger avatar today!

quote: Originally posted by Amesjustin I use 37 resources (with 1 repeated graphic for offshore oil). All 36 images I cut and paste using MS Paint, as crappy as it is, and it works fine. I just cannot create new graphics that are worth a damn.

hi ,

, Snoopy is very good in the creation of new graphics , ....

, why not take pics from the net or so , and work with that , ...

have a nice day

	26-06-2002 20:27									#14
	odder still Tired of ads?

Strangely, I used pspro to cut & paste graphics, and they show up just fine in the editor (the hacked editor, of course) ...but they don't show up in the actual *game*. Vamoos. Gone. Vanished. Empty places where they should be displayed. Check the scenerio in editor again ...yep, there. show up.

like the coffee bean, for instance. and the crab (from ctp, right?). and the pearls and.....

sigh

	28-06-2002 19:22									#15
	Re: odder still Inflate your Upload Space

quote: Originally posted by green_athena Strangely, I used pspro to cut & paste graphics, and they show up just fine in the editor (the hacked editor, of course) ...but they don't show up in the actual *game*. Vamoos. Gone. Vanished. Empty places where they should be displayed. Check the scenerio in editor again ...yep, there. show up. like the coffee bean, for instance. and the crab (from ctp, right?). and the pearls and..... sigh

Did you set an advance prerequisite for the resource that you have not yet used in the game?

Did you use Gramphos' copy tool to copy an already existing resource, then modify it and change the graphic so it becomes the new resource?

That's what I did and it worked perfectly - all 37 graphics show up in all new games once the appropriate advance has been researched.

	28-06-2002 19:25									#16
	Remove this text

quote: Originally posted by panag , why not take pics from the net or so , and work with that , ... have a nice day

Panag,

That is exactly what I do. Snoopy is just one of the handfull of great artists I have borrowed graphics from in my game - blue0, mmx, Womocks, and Harlan are some of the other great artists to get graphics from.

	29-06-2002 21:07									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

quote: Originally posted by Amesjustin Panag, That is exactly what I do. Snoopy is just one of the handfull of great artists I have borrowed graphics from in my game - blue0, mmx, Womocks, and Harlan are some of the other great artists to get graphics from.

hi ,



now , actually Firaxis has to trow a dozen more in the game , .....

there is the room for it , ...

have a nice day