14-06-2002 04:37									#331
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Hockey, tuqes, and canadian beer for everyone!

	14-06-2002 05:07									#332
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They're dropping like flies! It's okay to be friendly towards Germany, but this?!

Churchill

	14-06-2002 05:07									#333
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To The World: I will be Governing Austrailia on behalf of the German empire.

(State of Germany)
Austrailia
Population:20,000,000
Army: 5,000,000 Infantry
Navy: 2 heavy frigates 3 cruisers 7 destroyers 9 light frigates
Airforce: 4 outdated WWII fighter wings
Nukes: 10 ICBMs
Special forces: 1 Spy , 5,000 SAS
Armed Forces effectiveness: medium

Production:
2 New industrial sites= 10 months/days
1,000 F-15= 7 months/days
rearming all infantry personal with up to date weapons= 10 months/days
5,000 SAS
1 new battleship every 2 months/days
1 new destroyer every 1 month/day

(I will also be Governing New Zeland I'll post that later)

	14-06-2002 05:14									#334
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I give Australia 5 wings of F-15s, the five old carriers that are being phased out in favour of the new ones I'm building, and 5 wings of F-14s to put on them.

I also give them 10 battleships, 20 destroyers, 40 frigates and 25 submarines.

This gives them a small navy, and hopefully a small/medium air force(I don't know how many aircraft are in one of your wings )

I also grant them 250 Challenger II tanks, and 250 Panzer IIs.

I also give 2000 of the old Challengers that the CIIs are replacing.

Good luck, people of the Commonwealth.

Churchill

	14-06-2002 05:16									#335
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To The World: I will be Governing New Zealand on behalf of the German empire.

(State of Germany)
New Zealand
Population:4,000,000
Army: 500,000 Infantry
Navy: 2 cruisers 5 Destroyers 8 Frigates
Airforce: 1 out dated WWII Fighter wing
Nukes: 1 ICBM
Special forces: 1,000 SAS
Armed Forces effectiveness: medium

Production:
5 New Indutrial zones 10 months/days
500,000 Infantry 4 months/days
1 battleship every 3 months/days
250 F-15 7 Months/Days

	14-06-2002 05:18									#336
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To New Zealand we send 500 old Challengers.

We also send 5 wings of F-15s.

We will also be sending 1 carrier, 2 battleships, 4 destroyers, 8 frigates and 5 submarines.

Good luck to all those who are no longer in the British Empire.

Churchill

	14-06-2002 05:22									#337
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Austrailia
(State of Germany)
Population:20,000,000
Army: 5,000,000 Infantry 250 Challenger II tanks 250 Panzer MkII tanks 2000 old challengers
Navy: 2 heavy frigates 3 cruisers 27 destroyers 49 light frigates 5 carriers 10 battleships 25 submarines
Airforce: 4 outdated WWII fighter wings 5 F-15 wings 5 F-14 wings
Nukes: 10 ICBMs
Special forces: 1 Spy , 5,000 SAS
Armed Forces effectiveness: medium

Production:
2 New industrial sites= 10 months/days
1,000 F-15= 7 months/days
rearming all infantry personal with up to date weapons= 10 months/days
5,000 SAS
1 new battleship every 2 months/days
1 new destroyer every 1 month/day

	14-06-2002 05:25									#338
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New Zealand
(State of Germany)
Population:4,000,000
Army: 500,000 Infantry 500 Challengers
Navy: 2 cruisers 5 Destroyers 16 light Frigates 1 carrier, 2 battleships, 4 destroyers, and 5 submarines
Airforce: 1 outdated WWII Fighter wing 5 F-15 wings
Nukes: 1 ICBM
Special forces: 1,000 SAS
Armed Forces effectiveness: medium

Production:
5 New Indutrial zones 10 months/days
500,000 Infantry 4 months/days
1 battleship every 3 months/days
250 F-15 7 Months/Days

	14-06-2002 06:38									#339
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Annoucements

To TheWorld: For Those of you who do not realiize it, Israel is now a German state. However To my public. We still command our country, its production, its defenses, and The Black Elite Guard.

Also due to the fact that China's leader is gone its cities are rioting. I will setup a new government to take control. Please realize that this is NOT a military takeover. I will of course reliunqish control once its rightful leader has returned.

Production Israel / China [both are now German states]

Due to the tools and advanced factories provided by Britian Israel will be upgrading the following

Medium Army to Large Army
Time = 5 months / 5days
Small Navy to Large Navy
Time= 8 months/ 8 days
Medium Airforce to Huge Airforce
Time= 8 months / 8 days
The Black Elite Guard expanding to 5 Panzer Corps w/
infantry and artillery
Please note every division besides The Black Elite Guard and The Hells Wing are being controlled by Hitler the second.

Diplomatic Affairs/ Transmissions
To Germany: I forgot about one more issue in our pact. Can I have 5 elite fighter wings and elite 5 bomber wings? They will be supersonic. Also all techs are being transferred to you. [The Sam and vulcan tanks.]
To Germany and German state Switzerland: Since I am science advsior please complete all of your research and then research no more. If you have an idea for a tech contact me. I have one request as your state. That I NOT give you or any one else the Mammoth Tank Tech. I swear that no one else shall recieve the tech either.

	14-06-2002 12:22									#340
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OOC: I couldn't log on to Apolyton, I was at school and couldn't use the interent. Anyway:

Metaliturtle: You seem to keep basin your beliefs on what Germany can acheive vs. Russia on what Hitler1 did. Do you really think you can take the most heavily defended region in the USSR when we have an army of 10 million men & 1 million tanks, all ready to defend? You'll push us back some distance, but you certainly won't take it all.

Cbraun: Stalin is dead, since 1953, in case you haven't noticed. The ruler is now General Secretary Tacticus.

Edit: We seriously need an updated map.

Last edited by GeneralTacticus on 14-06-2002 at 12:28

	14-06-2002 12:39									#341
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Soviets begin mass production of FAE weapons, in preparation for their use against Germany. Also begin massive expansion program for industry in Siberia, in case Western Russia falls to the Nazis. Mass conscription program also instituted, expected to produce over 100 000 troops per month.

Classified

To India:

We are afraid that Cavalry may not be much use in our battle against Nazism, that lesson has been driven home painfully in both previous world wars. However, naval assistance would certainly be helpful to us.

	14-06-2002 15:51									#342
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German flag raised at the Canadian Parliament (sp?).


Canadian statistics.

Large Army
Medium Navy
Huge Air Force

Army effectiveness: low

Navy effectiveness:medium

Air Forece effectiveness: Very high


CODED TO HITLER...CODED AGIAN

So, when do you want me to launch an attack on eastern russia?

	14-06-2002 17:42									#343
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i'm leaving this game, not becasue i don't like it, but because i dont have time to be active enough to be an important civ and it's boring otherwise...

	14-06-2002 18:43									#344
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To All Nations: I request that you recognize my control of China, that way I can begin actions as China.

	14-06-2002 18:45									#345
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Production
Secret Service
Time left until completion= 1months/ days
50 armored corps due to increasing hostility in the world
Time left until completion= 1months/ 1days
New airdefense corp with new high explosive SAMs
Time left until completion= 3 months/ 3 days
Medium Army to Large Army
Time = 5 months / 5days
Small Navy to Large Navy
Time= 8 months/ 8 days
Medium Airforce to Huge Airforce
Time= 8 months / 8 days
The Black Elite Guard expanding to 5 Panzer Corps w/
infantry and artillery
Time= 1month /1day

Research
New vulcan machine gun tanks
Completed
A tank mirroring the Mammoth Tanks of China
Time left until completion= 3months/ 3days
Supersonic Jet Fighter
Time left until completion= 3months/ 3days
Supersonic Bomber
Time left until completion= 4months/ 4days
Vaccine to biological/chemical weapons
Time left until completion= 5months/ days

This is my updated production/ research post.

	14-06-2002 20:07									#346
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To my canadian state, Now is the time to strike eastern Russia

Chinese forces, currently under German Control cut northwest, flanking the Russian Defenses and Meeting the Germans, bolstering German and Chinese Morale, the Eastern and Western halves of the empire meet!((Baro, I know you're the governor of china, but it is under German control, which means this move is fully within my rights.))

((Stalin, I won't call you General, I've probably killed most of your force by now, my initial push was set back you whiney jerk, and my second one wasn't that far in, with the best tanks and swiss special forces, I didn't get busted by reality police, (SKILORD) which means my attack stands as I wrote it. My strategy is a sound one, based on the actual cold war invasion strategy (there was one, and there's a really boring book about it.) Anyway, In russia, everything goes by train, even now, massive troop movements with a bombed rail line won't work, your rail lines were the first thing that I had destroyed, making a blitzkrieg attack extremely successful. Being outmanned and outgunned, how can you say that the attack didn't happen? (can someone back me up on this?)))

To Russia: Surrender while there is still some of your territory in which to do so!!

To the Science Advisor of Germany: Can we work on a muzzle for the secretary of russia??

To England: Thank you for your ongoing support in our efforts against the soviet Menace.

	14-06-2002 20:17									#347
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OOC: Though I would love for my allies to all powerful, I don't find it realistic enough stating that your army is medium, your airforce is large, etc.. not to mention saying that you're going from a small navy to a large navy, and a medium airforce to a huge one isn't fair. although you may be a "German State" it doesn't mean you have been given control over factories inside of germany, unless you've requested it in which case you should post such details. I'm not trying to say what you're doing is impossible, I'm merely saying troop numbers and positions should be posted every three days or so. Just keep it as easy to decide battles as possible, as Skilord is gone right now. and keep the production posts to about everyother day or when a big change has been made (ie you're done producing half of what's on the list, some one captured one of your industrial zones)

hope this makes sense
EDIT: Im tired excuse the jumping from one topic to another, I'll try to fix that a little later.

	14-06-2002 20:47									#348
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*Troop Movement*
The Austrailian and New Zealand SAS board onto the frigates of both nations, as both nations send thier entire navy north. The (5wings) F-14s of Austrailia are on the carriers. A few civillian cargo ships are also among them, carrying the 2000 old challengers and the 250 Panzer MkIIs supplied by england. They plan on arriving in China within the month.

Switzerland sends it troops foward to help in the fighting, by now the 250 Panzer MkIIs and the 250 Chanllenger 2s have arrived. The challengers are set back one mile from action and act as artiallery bombarding the Russian defenses, While the 7500 light armour and 250 Panzers accompany the Infantry (5 corps) to the front. The Alpine troops are also sent to the front but in a different fashion; With the fire support from the challengers they concentrate thier attacks on one lightly defended position. One wing at a time the F-5s are sent out; 100 fly air cover while the rest strafe Russian positions with thier guns (fortunatly for Russia F-5s aren't capable of carrying large loads ).

**Secret Troop Movement**
As the battle rages on the spies are sneaking further into Russia....

OOC:General Tacticus feel free to find out about my spies at any time, that's my failur of the day... unless you want to be assassinated.

	14-06-2002 20:54									#349
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Germany and holdings population and distribution (cia world factbook numbers)

Canada: 31,592,805
China: 1,273,111,290
Australia: 19,357,594
African Holdings: 34,000,000 ((half of egypt since I have the most dense parts of real egypt))
Denmark: 5,352,815
France: 59,551,227
Germany: 83,029,536
Indonesia: 228,437,870
Israel: 5,938,093
Italy: 57,679,825
Jamaica: 2,665,636
Cuba: 11,184,023
Greece: 10,623,835
Netherlands: 15,981,472
New Zealand: 3,864,129
Norway: 4,503,440
Panama: 2,845,647
Poland: 38,633,912
Sweden: 8,875,053
Belgium: 10,258,762

Total: 1,914,770,238
Men in or able to be in the Military: approx. 400,000,000

*EDIT: I didn't put southeast asian states in here, we're probably much larger, but I had to account for this being recent info, so the lack of those people we'll assume haven't been born yet, or they've died in battle. Switzerland is in the total, but I didn't write down it's exact.

Total Population of Russia: 145,470,197

Last edited by Metaliturtle on 14-06-2002 at 21:00

	14-06-2002 20:56									#350
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so um, take that!!

	14-06-2002 20:58									#351
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CIA World Fact Book... gotta love it

EDIT: OOC: I have an idea, Metaliturtle and General Tacticus; save the map on the first page onto your computer edit it to include the lands that you have won/lost and PM it to me, I'll decide where the borders are. (and don't expect me to be partial)

Last edited by Space05us on 14-06-2002 at 21:16

	14-06-2002 23:14									#352
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Okay I'll take every thing away execpt the Black Elite Guard thing.

Due to my changes the production thing should look like this:

Production
The Black Elite Guard expanding to 5 Panzer Corps w/
infantry and artillery
Time= 1month/ 1day
New airdefense corp with new high explosive SAMs
Time left until completion= 3 months/ 3 days

Research:
Note: Due to the help from scientists in Germany and Switzerland my research has speeded up by 2 months.

A tank mirroring the Mammoth Tanks of China
Time left until completion= 1months/ 1days
Supersonic Jet Fighter
Time left until completion= 1months/ 1days
Supersonic Bomber
Time left until completion= 2months/ 2days
Vaccine to biological/chemical weapons
Time left until completion= 3months/ 3days

I will give unit designations.
The Vulcan Tanks name is the Death Lion .
The Mammoth Tanks Name is the Apacolypse
The Supersonic Jet Fighter is the F-76 Hell Falcon. [ I changed the name]
The Super Sonic Jet Bomber is the B- 68 Hell Raven.

To Germany: May I produce 5 elite fighter and 5 elite bomber squardrons called Hells Hand? Plus may I do military actions with China yet?

	14-06-2002 23:55									#353
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OOC : hi umm there was just something wrong because i think i said a bad word so i reregistered.

	15-06-2002 00:02									#354
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:::CODED:::
TO HITLER2: When are you attacking I WILL AID YOU.
In anyway as long has i get a fare cut of the land....




Arabian Empire Stable Gov.
Population 354, 000, 000
Army Huge 20, 000, 000 Inafective (but suicidel)
Navy: none
Air: None
Nukes: Many and making more
1 month/day = 2 nukes
3 month/day building harbors
1 month/day army training camps.

Last edited by thrusters_back on 15-06-2002 at 01:16

	15-06-2002 00:19									#355
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Thrusters..... you are WAY off on the population it's more like 354,000,000

	15-06-2002 01:03									#356
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(( ok sorry for being so off lol ))

	15-06-2002 01:20									#357
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OOC: no problem

	15-06-2002 02:03									#358
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((Thrusters, attack India))

	15-06-2002 02:09									#359
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**CODED**
To Germany: Unless we are openly going to support them you should have said that IN SECRET!!

	15-06-2002 02:28									#360
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India offers a cease fire with the Axis. No stipulations just you don't attack us we don't attack you. It can be broken anytime without diplomatic pleantly just as long as you give one months notice.