08-06-2002 18:21									#1
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What's the most great leaders anyone's gotten in a single turn? I just got four; the first three rushed SETI, an Iron Works (I just recently captured a city that can build it), and Battlefield Medicine, and by then I was down to one elite panzer unit (or thought I was; I just found four more) and one enemy city within striking range so I decided to save the fourth leader for the U.N.

The way it happened is that I had numerous elite panzers left over from a major war I'd just fought. England had quite a few cavalry and riflemen stomping through my territory on the way to Russia (without permission, I might add), so depending on how the battles went, some of my elite panzers could attack two or even three times the same turn. Better, England didn't have any infantry, so even attacking cities, all I had to fight were riflemen - and the second defender was often a spearman. (Earlier warfare apparently had left England spread very thin.) That gave some additional opportunities for two attacks in a turn, and I had almost no losses (or even retreats). And the way things laid out, there were eleven English cities within striking range (althugh I almost missed the fact that there was a way to get to the last two of those the same turn), so I had plenty of targets to use my elite forces on.

All in all, it was a VERY GOOD turn, even if most of my veterans did just get stuck twiddling their thumbs for lack of anything to do.

Nathan

	08-06-2002 18:40									#2
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I do not believe that there is a limit to how many Great Leaders you may get in a single turn, beyond the limits of only being able to have one at any given instant, and that each Elite unit may not generate more than one Great Leader during its lifetime.

	08-06-2002 19:00									#3
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I never got more than one per turn in my short Civ3 playing life, congrats on the four. It must have been quite a rush doing that.

	08-06-2002 21:54									#4
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3.

Same kind of thing, massive numbers of enemy troops in my territory. Arty to take them down to 1 hp, and let the carnage commence.

Gotta be careful to move the elite+leader units away (I store them in my capitol).

You were lucky that you had good Wonders to use them on.

	09-06-2002 00:13									#5
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4 as well. I just kept making them into armies because there was nothing left to build with them.

	09-06-2002 07:02									#6
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In the Egyptian Mess (new name), I hit the limit on Armies. made Factories.

"Massive Combat" was evidently not considered or playtested.

Actually, on certain turns, I'm surprised I haven;t gotten more GLs... although that may have been prior to understanding the elite+leader condition.

I expect, in future games, that I will be able to generate 6-8 in a turn (200 engagements, half vet and half elite, win 75%).

It has definitely changed my style: I only build GWS if I KNOW my productivity will win out, otherwise I depend on GLs.

If I miss a couple GWs... well, I, uh, that is, hmmm, incorporate said data into the overall geopolitical plan.

	09-06-2002 07:57									#7
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Only 2, one went to a wonder the other became an army. My record in a short period of time was 8 GLs before the AD years on a tiny small land pangea map with Japan. At one point it seemed one out of two combats were generating GLs, never managed to repeat that success rate again.

	09-06-2002 17:14									#8
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i got 2 in one turn once! I never really get early great leaders, my 'combat phase' begins once combat ships become available, and my big offensives come around just before tanks are available!

	10-06-2002 00:33									#9
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Jimmytrick, you made it sound like you quit playing Civ 3. You don't like game? *sniff*

	10-06-2002 17:19									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Artifex Jimmytrick, you made it sound like you quit playing Civ 3. You don't like game? *sniff*

That's an understatement. jt is a very vocal critic of the game.

As for Great Leaders, the most I've had in one turn was two, and that was on the defensive! It was my first game of Civ3 last November. I waited all game to see this cool new feature, and finally generated a GL from an elite rifleman. Then the rifleman was killed and the GL went with him. Same thing happened with another rifleman on the same turn. Two GLs, both dead.

I didn't actually get one I could use until my third or fourth game.

	10-06-2002 17:23									#11
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I've gotten 7 once.... although it was on a huge map late in the game when I had about 100 units attacking the AI.